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Budget G5 Hackintosh. 'No Rear Cut'.

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Really happy with my first Hackintosh build using a $20 motherboard, the dell 7010 with Q77 chipset. I have been a big fan of the APMG5 case since I first used one at art college. It impressed me then with its build quality and design. And since discovering Hackintosh over a year ago, when the opportunity to obtain a free G5 case came up, I took it. I have never built a computer, let alone a Hackintosh. But thanks to the resources I have read and the help I have received on this site, I have a machine I’m really proud of. Originally this was meant to be a budget build using guides I listed at the beginning of this thread. Petri Chrons super cheap fusion drive on a Q77 board started me on this journey. And along the way I discovered that - despite HP and Dell support forums saying otherwise - you can in-fact boot Mojave from an NVMe drive by using clover installed on a SATA drive. It’s a good option if you have either the X4 or X16 slot free. I recommend the HP EX900, as it runs cooler than the EX920. I did have the EX920 installed in this build at first, but it burnt out after six weeks. I also lost an RX 580 graphics card and 16GB of GSkill ram. I think they just overheated, there was nowhere for the hot air to escape. In hindsight I suppose I could use a riser and mounted the graphics card elsewhere inside the case, bought more fans to take the hot air out or removed the top shelf. But that would mean not being able to fit the clear plastic cover or closing the side panel and breaking my rule of not cutting the case, I can still use it for future builds. The following is a list of parts I used to build my Blue G5

The APMG5 case from 2004!, these can be found on eBay. Even better if you can get hold of one and take everything out of the case. Some parts can be reused, I used the original fan guard and motherboard mounts. Just be aware that removing the top shelf involves removing the locking mechanism for the plastic cover and side panel.

After reading trs96 guide for the Dell Optiplex 7010/9010 Rv2 and Petri Chrons super cheap fusion drive on a Q77 board thread I got a Dell 7010 MT motherboard for around $20 on eBay. It has a PCIe X4 if you want to install an NVMe drive. But most importantly it fits in the G5 and lines up with all the PCI slots perfectly. In the photo below I set up the HP NVMe drive in the X16 slot and the Fenvi in the PCIe X1 slot. The 500 GB WD HDD has the EFI folder and Clover installed. And that allows you to boot Mojave from the NVMe. I also bought a 240W PSU from eBay, it was from a SFF 7010 I use it for testing and as a back up. To build this cost. PSU $16, MB $18, CPU fan and cooler $9, Fenvi wireless card $54, 250GB HP NVMe M.2 $34, NVMe adapter card $2, DP - HDMI cable $10 and a Dell 7010 Power switch $4. The Ram, HDD and cables I already owned, so without the processor that’s $147. As long as you have a processor with HD4000 graphics you could easily keep this under $200.

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I paired the motherboard with an iCore i7-3770 processor. Four cores and eight threads, HD4000 graphics for Mojave and will add roughly 300MB read speeds to an NVMe. Roughly $100 on eBay but worth the price.

I purchased a stock Dell OptiPlex 7010 CPU cooler fan and heatsink from eBay for around $9. It’s a little noisy, but PWM is working.

After the overheating issues with the initial build, I started thinking about the best way to keep everything much cooler. I found this Thermaltake Blue LED 92mm fan with manual speed control for $14 on Newegg. I like the manual control on it and it works really well, if a little loud when at full speed. I have it set up to suck air from the back of the case and blow cold air directly under the GPU and over the CPU heatsink. I can feel the warm air blowing out through the front of the case. I also like the blue LED, that was something I really liked since that photo I took of the empty case in front of a blue screen at the start of this thread. This connects to the motherboard using a Nippon Labs Molex male to 2 x 3.5 female power supply adapter Y cable splitter from Newegg for $.5

For storage I have 2 X Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB installed. I have owned these for almost three years now and have used them in various Apple Desktops and Laptops, very reliable. I can dual boot between Windows10pro and Mojave from Clover.
As an alternative you could add an NVMe M.2 SSD using an adapter in either the X16 or X4 slot, if you have either of those available. I have written more about my experience with an HP EX900 and EX920 over in the Deals of the Day thread.

I replaced the RX580 that burnt out with a refurbished Radeon RX 560 AERO ITX 4G OC GDDR5 LP graphics card. I think this performs slightly better than its equivalent, the NVIDIA 1050 ti. And I can run Mojave without any issues OOB. I purchased this from Newegg refurbished for $120, and it’s still on sale. It idles at 33 degrees C and is probably more suited to this case and motherboard than the hotter RX580. It also allows me to close the plastic cover on the case which the RX580 power cable blocked.

This is all powered by a Corsair CX750M PSU, Probably overkill for this build but its very efficient and its fully modular, so it will be good for a few years. I picked it up in BestBuy for $90, I was looking online at the time and couldn’t decide. Then I saw this and it seemed like a good deal.

Originally I had 16GB (2 X 8 GB), which I took from the HP6300mt. Installed in this build, but I lost that too. I currently have 8 GB (4 X 2 GB) which came with the HP6300mt when I got it.

For Bluetooth and Wireless I installed a Fenvi FV-T919 high speed network adapter in the PCIe X4 slot. A popular card here on tonymacx86, it has been recommended by many users on this site and has a brilliant signal and works OOB with macOS.

And finally a 2 X USB 3 PCI Expansion bracket - 20 pin header cable, suggested by trs96. Because I didn’t want to cut the case for the rear IO board, I moved my main connection to the PCI slots. I did attempt to fabricate a 4 X USB 3 slot using a portable USB hub and a expansion slot, but it wasn’t very strong. And $5 for a perfectly strong USB 3 cable which is long and can be threaded out of the way, is a good idea.


Another useful cable that I found while building the 'No cut' G5, was these right angle USB 3 cables. They're on eBay currently for $6 a pair and are really useful in tight spaces. I didn't use these in the build because I got the PCI 2 X USB 3 expansion, but if I need an extra USB 3 slot I can easily fit these.
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Temperatures good!.

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Here are some Geekbench scores to compare Mojave and Windows10pro on the same hardware.
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That's a surprise!, then why not compare those Benchmarks with the new 2018 Mac Mini below. trs96 wrote a good post in his Dell 7010/9010 guide, comparing the price of 2018 Mac Mini and a Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF with an i7-3770, 8GB, 250GB, and 120GB NVMe and a Quadro K600 Graphics card. I won't spoil that one!, go read!.
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Hey!

I really love the appearance of the mac g5. Therefore I want to use a mac g5 case to house a more modern computer with ok specs. I have already watched and read many tutorials about housing a pc in a mac g5 but your tutorial and post was the only one that did not require to cut the beautiful case. For that reason I would be really glad if you could give me some tips on how to convert an old mac g5 case to a modern computer. This will be the first computer that I will ever build however I am not that inexpercied since I am quite handy and I am a total tech-geek. Which advice would you give me on this project? I am on budget so it will not be too expensive though, but my main use with this new computer would be to play some games. Could you please help me?
 
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Not yet. What do you think I should do?
Depending on where your located. Look on eBay for a PowerMac G5 case. Expect to pay around the $50 mark!, edit: $100!. I started with 2 PowerMac G5’s and stripped them both out. I sold one and kept the other for my build. If you buy just the case check that it has the side panels and shelf’s intact. I kept the top shelf in mine so that the side panels can close easily. Look for a mATX board to sit inside this will fit the case easily.
 
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This seller from Texas has decent cases at a low price. Includes shipping. So if you're in the USA have a look.

Thanks @trs96. Just checked eBay and noticed some cases going for around $100!.
@APplEiSBEst also!, if your wanting to stick to a budget, I highly recommend the Dell SFF 7010 / 9010 motherboard, currently you can get one of those for $12.99 on eBay, the board is a perfect fit for the G5 case and has served me well. See this post from trs96 yesterday.
 
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Thanks @trs96. Just checked eBay and noticed some cases going for around $100!.
@APplEiSBEst also!, if your wanting to stick to a budget, I highly recommend the Dell SFF 7010 / 9010 motherboard, currently you can get one of those for $12.99 on eBay, the board is a perfect fit for the G5 case and has served me well. See this post from trs96 yesterday.
Since I live in Sweden it is a bit hard to find a case. The ones that are located in England would cost around 110 dollars (included shipping) and the bad thing is that they are not in a good condition. Therefore I will wait on some better deals. Eventually I perhaps will buy a case from Blocket (the swedish verision of ebay) or I will get help from my dad to find a case. My dad works at the local university and if I am lucky he maybe can find some old mac g5 that do not work and that would otherwise be thrown away. Meanwhile I will probably buy the Dell SFF 9010 in one or three days from now. @trs96 post was good. I am still a bit unsure which motherboard I will buy but I will try to figure it out. With both the DFF 7010 and the 9010 I do not know how long they will be up to date.

Anyways thanks to both of you that did answer. I really appreciated it.
 
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