- Joined
- Oct 31, 2010
- Messages
- 37
- Motherboard
- Gigabyte X79-UD3
- CPU
- Intel Core i7 4930k
- Graphics
- MSI GTX770 2GB
- Mobile Phone
Hi!
I'd like to start a discussion about 4k UI peformance in El Capitan.
I've been using a 4K monitor (60hz) paired with a 1080p monitor for a while now, and I'm very disappointed to say the least. Of course, one can't really be disappointed when using a hackintosh since hickups are to be expected but this seems to be a driver related problem (maybe even within Mac OS) and it has forced me to switch to windows, something I'm definitely not comfortable with and which has greatly impacted my productivity.
Here's the thing: I'm using a GTX770 (2GB) to drive both my displays with the Nvidia web drivers. I'm using the first displayscaling option, one that gives the "may impact performance" warning. Using no scaling at all is way too small, and the next option just really negates my move to 4K since things get way too big already. I have full graphics acceleration and everything seems to work as it should.
Until I open any heavy programs. Programs like Logic Pro X, Photoshop, Permiere, Final Cut Pro etc. etc. they are all unusable. The UI lags terribly, and the framerate within these programs sometimes falls back to a feeble 5fps.
Now, I've of course been googling around, and the Logic Pro issues seem to be widespread. Even on Apple's own products, like the 5K iMac the issues seem to be present big time. This is not an issue isolated to hackintoshes apparently, but Apple screwing things up.
I read about the "Metal framework" yesterday. In short, this framework developed by apple promises to resolve issues with sluggish UI performance and increase general GPU performance. I have read some reports already from people using real Macs that it did resolve the problems to some extend, also within heavy applications.
Unfortunately there's no clear sign yet that Nvidia will implement this framework within their web drivers and within what timespan, so we can't do anything else but wait in this case.
Finally, I'd like to hear all of your opinions and experiences concerning using 4K displays. How is it coming along for you guys? Is the UI smooth? Do you use display scaling, and if so, which one? Are the heavy applications smooth? And most importantly; what GPU do you use?
I'm especially wondering how the AMD GPU's are doing in this area, since most of the forum posts concerning these issues seem to be from Nvidia users. Then again, Nvidia is the most popular option amongst Hackintoshers if I'm not mistaken.
If these problems are less apparent on camp AMD I'm definitely willing to switch out my GTX770 for a red one.
So, let me know your thoughts, and maybe you can help me out. I'm on the verge of immediately buying the new Macbook Pro when they come out next month because I simply can't do any serious work in Windows (its audio environment just doesn't work) and I'm dying to get some work done.
I'd like to start a discussion about 4k UI peformance in El Capitan.
I've been using a 4K monitor (60hz) paired with a 1080p monitor for a while now, and I'm very disappointed to say the least. Of course, one can't really be disappointed when using a hackintosh since hickups are to be expected but this seems to be a driver related problem (maybe even within Mac OS) and it has forced me to switch to windows, something I'm definitely not comfortable with and which has greatly impacted my productivity.
Here's the thing: I'm using a GTX770 (2GB) to drive both my displays with the Nvidia web drivers. I'm using the first displayscaling option, one that gives the "may impact performance" warning. Using no scaling at all is way too small, and the next option just really negates my move to 4K since things get way too big already. I have full graphics acceleration and everything seems to work as it should.
Until I open any heavy programs. Programs like Logic Pro X, Photoshop, Permiere, Final Cut Pro etc. etc. they are all unusable. The UI lags terribly, and the framerate within these programs sometimes falls back to a feeble 5fps.
Now, I've of course been googling around, and the Logic Pro issues seem to be widespread. Even on Apple's own products, like the 5K iMac the issues seem to be present big time. This is not an issue isolated to hackintoshes apparently, but Apple screwing things up.
I read about the "Metal framework" yesterday. In short, this framework developed by apple promises to resolve issues with sluggish UI performance and increase general GPU performance. I have read some reports already from people using real Macs that it did resolve the problems to some extend, also within heavy applications.
Unfortunately there's no clear sign yet that Nvidia will implement this framework within their web drivers and within what timespan, so we can't do anything else but wait in this case.
Finally, I'd like to hear all of your opinions and experiences concerning using 4K displays. How is it coming along for you guys? Is the UI smooth? Do you use display scaling, and if so, which one? Are the heavy applications smooth? And most importantly; what GPU do you use?
I'm especially wondering how the AMD GPU's are doing in this area, since most of the forum posts concerning these issues seem to be from Nvidia users. Then again, Nvidia is the most popular option amongst Hackintoshers if I'm not mistaken.
If these problems are less apparent on camp AMD I'm definitely willing to switch out my GTX770 for a red one.
So, let me know your thoughts, and maybe you can help me out. I'm on the verge of immediately buying the new Macbook Pro when they come out next month because I simply can't do any serious work in Windows (its audio environment just doesn't work) and I'm dying to get some work done.
Last edited: