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Apple Previews macOS 11.0 Big Sur - Available Fall 2020

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Sooo with the ARM release we can only install apps from the App Store?

What I am thinking is that x64 apps from the internet will not work, not even in bootcamp, hmmm.

Big Sir is just iOS in my opinion.
 
Hackintosh will survive. For at least 2-3 years, intel Macs will continue to be developed and sold. For at least 5-7 years, those Macs will continue to be supported by macOS revisions.

During that time, the PC industry will make their own transition to ARM based hardware, because (let’s face it) the entire PC industry consistently takes their lead from Apple. Windows for ARM already exists, and just a matter of time for Microsoft to make it an officially supported release (ie for the mainstream). Same with a Linux, with most major distribution having ARM releases.

This is when those mighty talented members of the Hackintosh community will figure out what it will take to turn commodity ARM motherboards in ARMintosh (or ARMacintosh) systems - the preponderance or proprietary Apple chips will make this more challenging, to find functional equivalents on the PC side, but I am confident that it can and will be done.

This transition will allow both our platforms to make a clean break from the past, and start fresh - with the possible promise of significantly cheaper systems, with seriously better performance. Just wait for intel to release their own ARM chips.
 
here is the big question
did apple moved to arm because intel delays,shortage or security problems?

did they move to arm because they want to stop hackintosh?

is not like we can find a way, the same way amd run mac os

while the right answer might not be just one reason but a few reasons a conbination of a few but at the end one reason will have more weight that the other

i think the real reason is to be able to run ios and ipad apps natively while also cutting power compsuption and probably also saving money because they wouldn’t have to buy intel cpus , apple making their own chip it might save them some money

so they will make a bit more now with every sale, knowing mr cook he will take advantage and he will probably increase the price a little too, because now the mac is running on apple silicone, so is the latest thing on the market so it cost more

that is the way tim thinks , not me

anyway i’m done here
i’m personally done with mac os
i can still build for others but not for me, if i ever find a video card that is compatible on mac os , i might install it and run it but i’m not going to spend a single penny on a amd card

best of luck

I think because it is cheaper and you will be stuck with App Store for apps like Windows S, more control over the user.
 
Sooo with the ARM release we can only install apps from the App Store?

What I am thinking is that x64 apps from the internet will not work, not even in bootcamp, hmmm.

Big Sir is just iOS, in my opinion.

All of the old apps will work without the rebuild process due to build-in instructions translation features, just as it worked last time when the transition from PowerPC to Intel occurred.

iOS always has been a stripped-down version of macOS, so macOS is an upgraded iOS version.
Those are both the same OS, mostly.
 
here is the big question
did apple moved to arm because intel delays,shortage or security problems?

did they move to arm because they want to stop hackintosh?

is not like we can find a way, the same way amd run mac os

while the right answer might not be just one reason but a few reasons a conbination of a few but at the end one reason will have more weight that the other

i think the real reason is to be able to run ios and ipad apps natively while also cutting power compsuption and probably also saving money because they wouldn’t have to buy intel cpus , apple making their own chip it might save them some money

so they will make a bit more now with every sale, knowing mr cook he will take advantage and he will probably increase the price a little too, because now the mac is running on apple silicone, so is the latest thing on the market so it cost more

that is the way tim thinks , not me

anyway i’m done here
i’m personally done with mac os
i can still build for others but not for me, if i ever find a video card that is compatible on mac os , i might install it and run it but i’m not going to spend a single penny on a amd card

best of luck
You have been keeping flooding this website with posts like ‘macOS is done’ for months. What else you can do without being hysterical?
 
exactly, i forgot something, mr cook thinks just because the mac will be able to run ios apps, peope are going to run to the store to buy a mac. simply because now they can rum ios apps, yes it might work but most ios users are so hook up to their iphones that they can’t simply let go and put the phone down, desktop users are people who likes pcs, mr cook has no clue, he gets into politics and also into social issues. maybe he should ficus and spend more time worry about his position, while windows is no replacement for mac os, at least i don’t have the very limited harware problem that apple creates. nvidia 3000 series is going to goibg to be awesome, i’m not going to miss that because mr cook wants me to use amd.
 
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You have been keeping flooding this website with posts like ‘macOS is done’ for months. What else you can do without being hysterical?
i’m not hysterical, you gave your opinion and i gave mine, i think is fair, that is what forums are for, i’m not being disrespecful or anything, i didn’t called hysterical, right? i only wrote this to reply to you, i wasn’t going write any more because i already said what i wanted to say, i have no problem with you, is ok to disagree and have diferent point of view , that is what makes us unique

don’t take it personal simply because, i think diferent

your opinion and everybody else opinion matters

anyway , best of luck
regards
 
The average user has no idea what Intel means. The average user doesn't make a thousand posts about Nvidia support (not even pros do, as they simply want the best options available at a reasonable price, whether they're branded Nvidia or AMD). Again, the average user will keep buying Apple products as long as they're satisfied with them. And there's literally no downside in the ARM switch. I don't know how many of you watched the keynote, but Rosetta 2 ran a 16-million polygons model in Maya (for Intel), with colours, shaders, effects and all at native speed; it also ran a fairly recent Intel game at full speed and high framerate.
Basically, the aforementioned average user will end up with considerably faster Macs and little to no x86 incompatibility: I fail to see how Cook supposedly messed this up. Intel has been lagging behind all of its competitors: ARM chips are getting faster and faster, AMD offers better performances (on the high-end range, the difference is abysmal). Apple had to choose whether to move forward or keep delivering "meh" Macintoshes.

I still remember, even though I was definitely younger, when Apple switched to Intel. Most people said that PowerPC was a superior platform, that Intel was slower and that people would stop buying Macs and Apple would end up licensing Mac OS X. All of them were wrong, just like they will be now. To be honest, I was annoyed at how little progress Intel has been making in the past years, how their roadmap is far from exciting and how Macs do not really deliver a premium performance, on their base models at least (models that cost as much as premium PCs). At least, during the Snow Leopard era, Macs were priced reasonably and offered features, materials, designs and apps that no PC could give you. Finally, with ARM CPUs Apple will be able to surpass Intel like it did with their PowerPC G3 and G4 before the Intel Core line: if the cheapest iPad is faster than most notebooks, imagine what Apple can do with a desktop custom-chip.

Concerning the hackintosh world, yes, it is ending, albeit not immediately. Bear in mind that Apple supported PowerPC CPUs for four years. But most PowerPC machines were already either old, or anyway running on old processors. The PowerPC G5 debuted in 2003: basically, they had 6 years of OS updates (3 of which after switch, sorry for the pun), and were still supported until 2011. Nowadays, with the resources Apple has at its disposal and the large number of Intel machines, we can rest assured that Intel Macs will be supported for at least 5, 6 years. As the new Mac Pro was introduced just last year, Apple can't relinquish those pro users: I wouldn't be surprised if Intel versions will keep coming as long as there's a significant number of Mac Pros running.

Think of the hackintosh adventure as both a Mac OS trial version and an opportunity to learn: after building, understanding and overcoming years of "hardships", anything below actual coding is trivial to most of us. I've always been keen on computers, but I'm grateful for everything I learnt and experienced for free, thanks to Tonymac and their staff, but also thanks to many other, concurrent websites like InsanelyMac. Personally speaking, I'll run my desktop as long as I can: when the time comes, I'll replace it with an ARM Macbook, as Mac hardware will finally be worth Apple's prices. Besides, it's not like every new Mac OS version revolutionises the OS: even 10 years from now, building a cheap hackintosh, e.g. stuck on Mac OS 11.5, as your secondary/living room computer won't be a bad idea at all (just like many people keep running not-up-to-date Windows 10 iterations, Windows 8 and even 7).
 
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Apple released this year a MBP with 10th gen intel that should be supported for at least 6 years.
Why do you think 6 years?
When Apple went from PowerPC to Intel support for PowerPC was dropped after 3 years (with the exception of security patches).
 
Something no one has talked about yet. Apple Developers have been coding for the ARM version of macOS for years to get to this point in it's development. Why not keep the Intel x86 version going 3, 4 or even 5 more years ? A company with the money and talent that Apple has could certainly do that. The ultra expensive 2019 Mac Pros and as of yet unreleased Intel Macs, can keep working well into the 2020s and don't turn into expensive paper weights two years from now. Pro customers are happy and then eventually buy an ARM based MP once those are availble and the CPUs perform well enough for professional Mac Pro and even iMac Pro use.

Basically Apple will try to gain market with these small form factors (Laptops) using their own ARM chips. To be clear lets say I developed a product and I declared that its the best compared to others because we tested in labs, geekbench, etc and it outperforms others but when it hits the market and people starts to use it then only you will know the product is really good or not. So, when those devices have positive feedback from customers they will go for iMac and Mac Pro. Because they will not take the risk at once.
 
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