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Apple's Policy on Apple File System (APFS) for High Sierra

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I will make one more comment: I think it is incredibly lazy and sloppy programming on Apple's part to offer a utility that "converts" a bootable drive and "converts" it to a non-bootable state.
 
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I will make one more comment: I think it is incredibly lazy and sloppy programming on Apple's part to offer a utility that "converts" a bootable drive and "converts" it to a non-bootable state.
Not just lazy.
 
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Anything changed in the latest APFS regarding checksum and 3rd party ssd's ?
Or why people using apfs here ?


Arguments:
--license, prints the user license agreement only.
--agreetolicense, agree to the license you printed with --license.
--rebootdelay, how long to delay the reboot at the end of preparing. This delay is in seconds and has a maximum of 300 (5 minutes).
--pidtosignal, Specify a PID to which to send SIGUSR1 upon completion of the prepare phase. To bypass "rebootdelay" send SIGUSR1 back to startosinstall.
--installpackage, the path of a package (built with productbuild(1)) to install after the OS installation is complete; this option can be specified multiple times.
--eraseinstall, (Requires APFS) Erase all volumes and install to a new one. Optionally specify the name of the new volume with --newvolumename.
--newvolumename, the name of the volume to be created with --eraseinstall.
--usage, prints this message.
--volume, path to the target volume.


--converttoapfs seams to be gone ?
 
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I use it just fine. I also use trim as well. Using multiple brands from Samsung to crucial. Not seeing anything that’s I’ve seen reported here.

Anything changed in the latest APFS regarding checksum and 3rd party ssd's ?
Or why people using apfs here ?


Arguments:
--license, prints the user license agreement only.
--agreetolicense, agree to the license you printed with --license.
--rebootdelay, how long to delay the reboot at the end of preparing. This delay is in seconds and has a maximum of 300 (5 minutes).
--pidtosignal, Specify a PID to which to send SIGUSR1 upon completion of the prepare phase. To bypass "rebootdelay" send SIGUSR1 back to startosinstall.
--installpackage, the path of a package (built with productbuild(1)) to install after the OS installation is complete; this option can be specified multiple times.
--eraseinstall, (Requires APFS) Erase all volumes and install to a new one. Optionally specify the name of the new volume with --newvolumename.
--newvolumename, the name of the volume to be created with --eraseinstall.
--usage, prints this message.
--volume, path to the target volume.


--converttoapfs seams to be gone ?
 
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I use it just fine. I also use trim as well. Using multiple brands from Samsung to crucial. Not seeing anything that’s I’ve seen reported here.
Tghank you, I cloned yesterday my HighSierra to another SSD and upgraded it to Mojave. Besides some applications are reported as deprecated anything is fine.

The most annoying part is that Safari no longer supports all extensions I use.
Heck I havent even found an AdBlocker which lets me add custom rules or simply select items to block on a page ? Is there any ? And at its best free? Same with JavaScript blocker, I havent found any. Last but not least Tampermonkey, a JavaScript runner.

If it stays like this I predict that alot people like me will stop using Sarafi :/
 
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uBlock Origin works perfectly after ignoring the warning and enabling it.

Tampermonkey works great too.
 
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Anyone know what method is best to enable TRIM in High Sierra running on APFS? Is the following terminal command still relevant?
Code:
sudo trimforce enable
I've been seeing people manually add TRIM via clover... is that really necessary?

That said, is it still wise to install High Sierra on HFS? I've seen some comments that OS Updates now require APFS... is there any truth to this? Should I stick with High Sierra and APFS or re-install with HFS?
 
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Anyone know what method is best to enable TRIM in High Sierra running on APFS? Is the following terminal command still relevant?
Looks from here like the TRIM function is now built into Mac OS. At least on High Sierra and Mojave I never had to do anything to add it, and System Report shows "Trim - yes."

That said, is it still wise to install High Sierra on HFS? I've seen some comments that OS Updates now require APFS... is there any truth to this? Should I stick with High Sierra and APFS or re-install with HFS?
No expert here, but I had HFS+ on High Sierra up through 10.13.6 (Latest build) and liked it much better for the reduced number of storage volumes shown in Clover. I also liked it better because looking at System Report, I could see which volume was "disk0" and which was "disk1." I need to know that when using "EFI Mounter V3 because I have multiple volumes. Using APFS, the System Report readout is totally screwy and that information is not there, on either High Sierra or Clover. You are right that given certain SMBIOS setups, Mojave will not install on an HFS+ volume. But it is hardware-dependent. For instance, I installed Mojave 10.14.5 using SMBIOS iMac 18,3 on an HFS+ volume, but I could not install it using SMBIOS iMac 19,1; I got the error message "this is not an APFS disk" when I tried. Apparently Apple does not allow HFS+ on that hardware.
 
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Looks from here like the TRIM function is now built into Mac OS. At least on High Sierra and Mojave I never had to do anything to add it, and System Report shows "Trim - yes."
Only for NVME drives apparently, those recognize TRIM perfectly fine, but I'm on a 2.5" SATA drive and by default, TRIM is disabled. I've tried enabling TRIM (via terminal command) on my mom's MacBook Pro with an Intel SSD with High Sierra installed (APFS) and the system was spazzing out every now and then (mind you the SSD was old as dirt).

Given that, I'm hesitant on what to do with my Hackintosh w/ High Sierra 10.13.6 w/ 860 EVO and APFS.

I don't care much for the partition stuff as you mentioned in the second portion of your comment, the other partitions are not a bother for me; I see them once on boot about two to three times a month and that's about. I have Windows on a secondary drive in a hot swap bay with power switches that is mostly turned off anyway (no need for it to be powered on when not in use) so my system is fairly vanilla. That said, partition stuff for me doesn't cause conflicts.
 
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