Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

[StefanAM]

Is this something I have to do after every incursion in Windows?

Yep! Until someone will find a better solution.

 

[radu.truica]

Yep! Until someone will find a better solution.

Thank you very much and sorry for all the newb questions

 

[StefanAM]

Thank you very much and sorry for all the newb questions

Hehhehehehhe. With pleasure! Keep calling if you need it.

 

[joshuame149]

The reason for that is because under my EFI, under the Misc > Security > Scan Policy I have set it to only show up the macOS partition using 983299. If you want to see all the drives you need to set the policy to 0.

As for booting Windows on the Asus, the way to do it would be to press F8 at the start of your bootup. That is how I have set it up.

So I got some functionality from your tip, and the more research I did online. I can boot now with the HDD and other SSDs attached. But it still doesn't show up where I can access files. I can attach my flash drives, and they show up. But I can't get all the ports to turn green on Hackintool or to work this includes my USB-c port.

I also want the system to show the CPU i9-12900K with 16 cores 32 threads name and say its a Mac Pro if possible? I cant figure it out. Would upgrading to newest OpenCore help? Also, I haven't checked if Windows shows up and works together in OpenCore but will soon.

 

[trs96]

@joshuame149 @Braedonsl and others..

Note to everyone posting for help here. This is a Z690 General Discussion Compatibility thread, it's not meant as a support thread for your specific Z690 installation problems.

Start your own support thread in Monterey Desktop Support and put the exact name of your Z690 motherboard into the title of that thread. That way it's easier for others with that same board to learn what they need for success. Thanks !

 

[c-o-pr]

It's not just Handbrake for me, it's everything; my desktop is my main workhorse for all applications and my 9-5 job; multimedia design. I use a good chunk of the Adobe suite, and if a better processor also cuts down render times in After Effects for me, I'm going to be very happy. I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of us use these machines to do just about everything we throw at them, from work to personal stuff to gaming. It's a true 'all-in-one' for me.

A simple performance comparison of i9-10900K multicore h264 encode, multcore vs UHD 630.

I am drastically simplifying a lot of concerns in the above comparison, but I think it's fair to make a point.

On an Apple supported design, you get your cores, plus the benefit of task-specific silicon.

For a hackintosh, there was a crossroads that got passed in 2021. Whatever happens with hackintosh on RL and beyond, is going to miss out on any specicial silicon value Intel brings to party, beyond brute force.

Things are messy even for Windows! Currently, Intel is retracting support for AVX512, and dropping the security support that allows UHD vid decode a la disc payers. Yikes.

AS to Intel trying to match Apple on core function: Intel efficiency core is an odd-duck, trading off die area, performance and power in manner to copy Apple, but because their market is horizontal, even on Windows, you don't know what you will get nor how long it will work because the total system performance regarding power is a PC vendor concern, not an Intel / Microsoft concern. Whatever progress is made here, Hackintosh can just forget about it. If you get all the cores engaged, screw power and be happy (desktop only because a 12th gen hackinotsh laptop is gonna be a dumb mess).

Maybe some hackintosh desktop users don't care about silicon refinements because they can afford to throw kit at their work and see what sticks. But the sane 12th gen user will move back to Windows — God help you.

Meanwhile Apple Si designs are moving towards more task-specific silicon optimizations fully supported by Apple stack and all power / perf benefits realized up and down the line.

I'm not trying to hate on people having fun. But it's past the end of an era. This scene can only tread water from here on out.

Damn. That sounds pretty bad...

I got to this party very very late, but it was still fun! Thanks for the good community.

 

[energy23]

A simple performance comparison of i9-10900K multicore h264 encode, multcore vs UHD 630.

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I am drastically simplifying a lot of concerns in the above comparison, but I think it's fair to make a point.

On an Apple supported design, you get your cores, plus the benefit of task-specific silicon.

FOr hackintosh, there was a crossroads that got passed in 2021. Whatever happens with hackintosh on RL and beyond, is going to miss out on any specicial silicon value Intel brings to party, beyond brute force.

Things are messy even for Windows! Currently, Intel is retracting support for AVX512, and dropping the security support that allows UHD vid decode a la disc payers. Yikes.

AS to Intel trying to match Apple on core function: Intel efficiency core is an odd-duck, trading off die area, performance and power in manner to copy Apple, but because their market is horizontal, even on Windows, you don't know what you will get nor how long it will work because the total system performance regarding power is a PC vendor concern, not an Intel / Microsoft concern. Whatever progress is made here, Hackintosh can just forget about it. If you get all the cores engaged, screw power and be happy (desktop only because a 12th gen hackinotsh laptop is gonna be a dumb mess).

Maybe some hackintosh desktop users don't care about silicon refinements because they can afford to throw kit at their work and see what sticks. But the sane 12th gen user will move back to Windows — God help you.

Meanwhile Apple Si designs are moving towards more task-specific silicon optimizations fully supported by Apple stack and all power / perf benefits realized up and down the line.

I'm not trying to hate on people having fun. But it's past the end of an era. This scene can only tread water from here on out.

Damn. That sounds pretty bad...

I got to this party very very late, but it was still fun! Thanks for the good community.

Am I reading this right? That the 10900k performs nearly 20% faster with an iGPU enabled in Handbrake? If so, that kind of makes me want to build a 10900k rig instead of 12900k, but this is exactly why I've asked a number of times for someone to do a real world Handbrake test with the 12th gen processors by running a small file compression of Big Buck Bunny.

If anyone with a 12th gen CPU on a fully working Hackintosh can run a quick test at the link below, it'd be GREATLY appreciated:

Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

Same computer 32 Gb RAM more: Your preset was set to 'Fast' (thus the faster encode)

www.tonymacx86.com

 

[NCMacGuy]

I'd love to see what others are getting with Alder Lake CPUs @Middleman @ori69 would you be willing to do a compression test?

@energy23

I ran your experiment on my Z690 Aero G DDR4, i9-12900K (stock speed), 8P+8E No HT, 32GB DDR4 @3600MHz, Sapphire RX 580 8GB, WD Black SN750 SE 1TB.

When using 8P+8E No HT, my CPU temp runs around 80°C under heavy load like this test or Cinebench. I can't run with HT enabled as the CPU overheats with these tests. I am currently using an ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280. But I had the same heat limitations using an iCue H115i RBG PRO XT, as well as an NOCTUA NH-U12S.

Run time: 6:34

 

[dclive]

Unless everyone downloads the same test file (I couldn't see what the previous test used for a sourcefile) and has the same output format, I don't think we're testing the same things.

Also, part of the test is using the CPU for the rendering/encoding, and the other part is using the iGPU for the encoding; I can see interest in both tests.

Finally, as the iGPU encoder is the same across all the CPUs of a iGPU type (HD770, HD730, etc.) it would be interesting to compare against other CPUs of the same generation, but significantly lower in cost (whether Celeron, Pentium, or just lower end i5) to see how the performance changes (and test my belief that it won't change that much, as long as the lower end CPU can keep up with handling audio and the other odds and ends that the iGPU doesn't touch).

 

[NCMacGuy]

Unless everyone downloads the same test file (I couldn't see what the previous test used for a sourcefile) and has the same output format, I don't think we're testing the same things.

@dclive

I just duplicated @energy23's test, as he was looking for volunteers, using the same test file and presets. Test file is shown in the queue - bbb_sunflower_2160p_30fps_normal.mp4