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- Apr 11, 2014
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- Motherboard
- Asus ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI
- CPU
- i9-13900KF
- Graphics
- RX 6900 XT
- Mac
Any point of getting the Gigabites TB4 card?Removed this from my github since I no longer have the TBEX 4 but here were my observations:
For Thunderbolt 4, currently the only available Thunderbolt 4 PCIe card is the ASUS ThunderboltEX 4. (Not true anymore since the Gigabyte GC-Maple Ridge and ASRock Thunderbolt 4 AIC are out now)
Current Observations
Note these observations are based on the devices tested listed below. YMMV and issues I'm running into may just be due to these devices.
* Initially ran into issues where card was causing kernel panics in macOS and error code 62 on reboots. Found this issue on the latest BIOS with resizable bar support. Downgraded BIOS to 3302 and the card works normally.
* Thunderbolt header may not necessarily be needed or jumped. macOS recognizes the card on boot without a header plugged in.
* The 6 pin power and USB 2.0 internal cable have to be connected.
* Thunderbolt settings have to be enabled in BIOS. The device loaded in a different slot with Thunderbolt disabled but it showed 'No driver installed'.
* SSDT is required for device to be recognized.
What Works
* Thunderbolt 3 hot-plug
* USB 2.0 hot-plug/cold-plug
* USB 3.1 Gen 2 hot-plug/cold-plug
* Sleep
What Doesn't Work
* Thunderbolt 3 cold/warm boot
Devices Tested
* Sabrent Thunderbolt 3 M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure (EC-T3NS)
To-Do
* Extract original firmware and try installing custom firmware for Thunderbolt Local Node support. (no custom firmware yet since macOS doesn't have Maple Ridge drivers)
Any point of getting the Gigabites TB4 card?
Agree, I ordered one lets see if I can get it to work and if its better or not. Worst case it'll go into NASHaven't tested one so can't comment but I think a Titan Ridge is a better option atm.
@izo1 Did you had/have any issues with dual 6900's? I'm waiting for the EKWB to send me the water loop they just released to put the second one in.
You made my day @izo1You can get a higher end AIO if you don't want to do a proper waterloop.
I don't understand why you wouldn't want to overclock these processors, they were built for that. The stock speeds are pretty tame and imo Intel just kept it there to appease their website specs and not go over a certain wattage.
Just get a good 360mm AIO and overclock your 9980XE. I am not really sure why you want to downgrade to a 10920x when you have a binned chip on your hands that has the ability to overclock easily with a decent AIO.
You can definitely do 4.0-4.2Ghz with a good AIO on all cores, or if you want to replicate the 10920x cores, just overclock 12 cores to 3.5Ghz and the other 6 cores leave it as default.
Remember that the "boost" cores are usually 1-2 cores, they are not all the cores. They advertise Turbo Boost as if it's all cores.
When you get a watercooling setup the whole point is to boost ALL the cores and have to run above the base frequency when it needs to, this is where the "snappiness" comes in that the CPU can jump to for example 4.5Ghz on all cores when necessary.
You made my day @izo1
I overclocked my 9980XE per core usage just like 10980XE is set by intel at stock using adaptive voltage and auto temp throttling (which I think starts to throttle when going over 84°):
2 cores: 48x | 4 cores: 47x | 12 cores: 43x | 16 cores: 39x | 18 cores: 38x
Probably I could go higher with 12 - 16 - 18 cores but having same profile as 10980XE gives me enough peace of mind and I couldn't care less about 256GB RAM | Deep Learning Boost | Added PCIe lanes
I stress tested it in Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility (even with AVX1-2-512 loads with no offsets) in windows and it's fine, it gives me even higher points in GB5/CB23 than stock 10980XE (someone actually said so )
So, it will be wise to swap 5700XT for 6800XT for 200€ in order to enjoy a new architecture, occasional 4K/60 games and, most of all, upgrade now for a better resell value in the future? Judging by your latest comments, I think you agree on this?!
OFF TOPIC: What's the fastest/easiest way to have TB3/4 functionalities without soldering/flashing? I'd be fine with no cold/warm boot but I'd like to have hotplug. none of them are mandatory for me, just nice to haves.
It's good that you set it to throttle at 84c, that's what I do to with 42x multiplier on all 18 cores, it constantly outperforms higher specced 2019 Mac Pros too and indefinitely the 18 core iMac Pro. I render on all cores and it does a wonderful job. I might upgrade to 256GB of RAM when the prices dip a little bit.
I'm going a little off topic here too...
But would you mind putting together an OC guide? I know there are tons of guides out there but they always seem to target the highest possible all-core ratio's at insane power levels and I really want to get my head around a "balanced" overclock on X299 to extend my Hack days as much as possible
What you describe here, combining a thermal throttle limit and different targets for the number of cores used etc seems like a much more balanced approach to getting the best performance but also everyday usability - the type of approach that is rarely discussed when overclocking comes up.
I always used to overclock back in the quad core days, it was so much easier back then, but now im not entirely sure about it, I still want my CPU to scale in frequency/voltage to be as power efficient as possible while overclocking for performance when needed. Something like that would be great - whether in this thread to extend our X299 years or separate post if that's more appropriate - I would definitely appreciate some pointers
At the moment I'm just using a vcore adaptive offset to reduce core voltage by -0.075v which results in the stock turbo ratios remaining stable but at about 130w instead of 165w and much cooler temps across the board on full load - but that's it. Sure it could be improved.
with a 10th gen you're pretty much overclocked by default, intel squeezing all they can there. Anyway isn't that hard, it's just time consuming by trial and error. You have to set core clock "by core usage" in bios and choosing "adaptive mode" for core voltage all in "AI Tweaker" tab in BIOS. I usually download Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility and use it to figure out stock clock per core usage, then I apply 100Mhz increase to standard clock and test. You can set/save clocks and even stress test the CPU all inside the app (only available for windows). Basically you'll end up with red alerts on temps/throttle/voltages and that's where you should stop increasing clocks. Just keep in mind you'll need beefy cooling to go further on the already high clocks of 10th gen.I'm going a little off topic here too...
But would you mind putting together an OC guide? I know there are tons of guides out there but they always seem to target the highest possible all-core ratio's at insane power levels and I really want to get my head around a "balanced" overclock on X299 to extend my Hack days as much as possible
What you describe here, combining a thermal throttle limit and different targets for the number of cores used etc seems like a much more balanced approach to getting the best performance but also everyday usability - the type of approach that is rarely discussed when overclocking comes up.
I always used to overclock back in the quad core days, it was so much easier back then, but now im not entirely sure about it, I still want my CPU to scale in frequency/voltage to be as power efficient as possible while overclocking for performance when needed. Something like that would be great - whether in this thread to extend our X299 years or separate post if that's more appropriate - I would definitely appreciate some pointers
At the moment I'm just using a vcore adaptive offset to reduce core voltage by -0.075v which results in the stock turbo ratios remaining stable but at about 130w instead of 165w and much cooler temps across the board on full load - but that's it. Sure it could be improved.