Creative CA0132 codec discussion (Sound Core3D)

[TravelerTechie]

That means you can increase and decrease the volume?

Yes, volume control slider works, with increasing and decreasing the volume successfully.

So let's find a working source for destination point 91, one or more should work. If so, try the GPIO tool again if it activates the headphones.

Alright, here's what I got, still on Layout-id 4:

• Sources 44 and 45 - No sound at all.
• Sources 41, 42, 43, 46, 47, 48 - Sound comes only from the same rear Line-out port, when selecting the "Headphones" option from the top bar. The other "Line-Out" options yield no sound at all.
• Source 49 - The first "Line-Out" option gives sound to the rear Line-Out port. No sound coming in from the other options (nor ports).
• Source 4a - Again, sound comes only from the rear line out port, but with the 2nd "Line-Out" option from the top bar menu. No sounds coming in from the other options.

 

[wern]

Alright, here's what I got, still on Layout-id 4:

• Sources 44 and 45 - No sound at all.
• Sources 41, 42, 43, 46, 47, 48 - Sound comes only from the same rear Line-out port, when selecting the "Headphones" option from the top bar. The other "Line-Out" options yield no sound at all.
• Source 49 - The first "Line-Out" option gives sound to the rear Line-Out port. No sound coming in from the other options (nor ports).
• Source 4a - Again, sound comes only from the rear line out port, but with the 2nd "Line-Out" option from the top bar menu. No sounds coming in from the other options.

If I understood correctly, you and MusicHacker are confused by the small speaker icon of the IO-Shield, which explains the strange behaviour of the outputs. If so, the jack with the speaker icon is the rear headphones jack. I think Gigabyte means that you can also connect speakers to this jack. Look at the picture "l" is the output for speakers.

Confusing is also the auto switch function between speakers and headphones, which indicates whether headphones or speakers are connected. However, it is one device for speakers and headphones in the preference pane. I'll remove that.

EDIT:
Here the AppleALC layout 4 without auto switch. The SSDT should enable Line-Out without using any tool.

 

[TravelerTechie]

Look at the picture "l" is the output for speakers.

Yes, the L port in your picture (Line-Out) is the only one that works after all these tests we made.

Here the AppleALC layout 4 without auto switch. The SSDT should enable Line-Out without using any tool

So, tried the new .aml file you provided in the /patched folder, and the new AppleALC. Here's what I got:
I got 4 options at the top bar, the first is "Digital Out" and the rest are "Line-Out" options:

• 1st Line-Out option - Sound from the front headphone port, but extremely low volume (practically unusable)
• 2nd Line-Out option - Sound from the C-sub port (the N from the attached picture you provided), but again extremely low volume.
• 3rd Line-Out option - Sound from the rear speaker port (the O from the attached picture your provided), but again the volume is so low it's unusable.
• Both rear and front mic jacks still give input when talking to the microphone.

So while we got 3 ports now giving a sound, I have to place the speakers to my ears while having the room quiet, so I can hear the music (still in really low volume). If we manage to fix that, then getting 3 ports out of a Creative ZxRi is awesome (and more than enough if you ask me, I just need one rear port for speakers, and one front for headphones).

Perhaps a different layout ID can help with that?

 

[wern]

Yes, the L port in your picture (Line-Out) is the only one that works after all these tests we made.

I'm sorry that I thought you were constantly using the connector with the speaker icon. I already had another user who used it.
For a better understanding, port L should be configured to use stream 14 with source 48 and destination 91. The GPIO tool should switch between speakers and headphones.
You can check with the script if this is already done after startup. Also try again the tool from post #263.
Try the new .aml files. Auto switching probably still works, see if it helps if you unplug the rear headphone.

 

[TravelerTechie]

I'm sorry that I thought you were constantly using the connector with the speaker icon. I already had another user who used it.

No worries. I used to be a computer technician (before deciding to be a stay at home mom), so I had the habit of testing everything, so any tests you are giving me are done on all ports, I assure you.

The GPIO tool should switch between speakers and headphones.

I haven't noticed any switching happening with the tool. Although when I was on Layout ID 1 (before conducting our latest tests) there was automatic switching happening when I was plugging the speakers to different ports (at least showing up in the top bar), although no sound coming in.

Also try again the tool from post #263.

Tried the tool all the sources from 41-49 and 4a and yielded no changes nor switching to any of the ports when on 2nd and 3rd Line Out options from the top bar menu. Using the tool in any source when on the 1st Line Out option, loses the front headphone jack audio and no sound coming in (details on working sound and relation to sleep/wake below).

Try the new .aml files.

AML 2 Results:

• 1st "Line-Out" option from the top bar menu: no sound, although there's static noise in the Line-Out port (L from the diagram)
• 2nd "Line-Out" option: C/Sub port (N) working sound, although a bit choppy/distorted. Still static noise coming in when connecting to the Line-Out (L) port.
• 3rd "Line-Out" option: Rear Speaker (O) working sound, also a bit choppy.

AML 3 Results:

• 1st "Line-Out" option: static noise on Line-Out (L) port, but after sleep / wake up got fully working sound on the front headphone jack.
• 2nd "Line-Out" option: C/Sub port (N) working sound, a bit choppy just like in AML 2 file.
• 3rd "Line-Out" option: again just like in AML 2 file, working sound in Rear Speaker (O) port, but a bit choppy/distorted.

You can check with the script if this is already done after startup.

Check attachment for the output.

 

[wern]

No worries. I used to be a computer technician (before deciding to be a stay at home mom)

I also thought about it, but I was worried that the job might be too hard for me.

Although when I was on Layout ID 1 (before conducting our latest tests) there was automatic switching happening when I was plugging the speakers to different ports (at least showing up in the top bar), although no sound coming in.

Yes, but it only changes the Pin control, that is not sufficient for this codec.

Tried the tool all the sources from 41-49 and 4a and yielded no changes nor switching to any of the ports when on 2nd and 3rd Line Out options from the top bar menu.

This tool should only change different sources to destination 91, which only affects the 1st Line-out. The script output shows us that it failed.

AML 2 Results:

• 1st "Line-Out" option from the top bar menu: no sound, although there's static noise in the Line-Out port (L from the diagram)
• 2nd "Line-Out" option: C/Sub port (N) working sound, although a bit choppy/distorted. Still static noise coming in when connecting to the Line-Out (L) port.
• 3rd "Line-Out" option: Rear Speaker (O) working sound, also a bit choppy.

• Change the sample rate to 96kHz with the Audio-MIDI-Setup.app. If that helps, I can force the AppleHDA to always set it to 96kHz.

AML 3 Results:

• 1st "Line-Out" option: static noise on Line-Out (L) port, but after sleep / wake up got fully working sound on the front headphone jack.

• Run the GPIO_flags script while you have sound on the front headphones.

Here a new .AML and GPIO-tool

 

[anarki]

Assuming that this is a PCIe card. Then you need to change at least the ACPI device name to HDEF, patch the HDAController ID to load the AppleHDA.kext. Also you have to set some bits in the BAR2 MMIO registers.
And set the mixer, which probably corresponds to the ZxR card.
VoodooHDA can at least handle the controller, but you still need to set up the mixer and the MMIO registers.

Thanks for your reply.
Yes, it is the PCI-E card.
I use VoodooHDA because I see it in a simpler way.
Can you please tell me where can I get information about the mixer ZxR and MMIO registers?
Just in case, attach the dump of my sound.
And, if I understand correctly, VoodooHDA understands it correctly without edits. Just to be able to access an AppleALC to card, what should I do with the edits? So that the AppleALC could work with her like a VoodooHDA. You can even fix this information in a hat so that stupid people like me can immediately see it.
Please forgive the grammar. I have a language barrier

 

[TravelerTechie]

I also thought about it, but I was worried that the job might be too hard for me.

I'm thinking of shifting my focus to become a programmer (or a web developer maybe), but I'm worried that my little brain won't be able to keep up. Oh well.

Change the sample rate to 96kHz with the Audio-MIDI-Setup.app. If that helps, I can force the AppleHDA to always set it to 96kHz.

The choppy sound seems to happen only when iTunes is at max volume, reducing it a bit from there seems to make the sound clear now (perhaps an EQ setting is enabled or something). Other sources (YouTube audio for instance) sound fine as well, so no worries there.

Run the GPIO_flags script while you have sound on the front headphones.

I must be doing something wrong in running the .scpt file. I get the error of "main.scptContents/macOS/hda-verb: no such file or directory" when it's looking for the hda-verb file (error comes after selecting a Bit from the GPIO tool).

Here a new .AML and GPIO-tool

I'm able to run the GPIO tool separately though, and here are my results. I'm assuming you want the results from the 1st Line-Out option of the top bar, where the front headphone jack is working, but can provide results for the other 2 Line-Out options as well if you like.
Using the new SSDT-ZxRi.aml without the GPIO tool, here are the results:

• 1st Line-Out option from top bar = Fully working sound on Front Headphone port, static noise on Line-Out port.
• 2nd Line-Out option from the top bar = Fully working sound on C/Sub port, static noise on Line-Out port.
• 3rd Line-Out option from the top bar = Fully working sound on Rear Speakers port.

Using the new SSDT-ZxRi.aml and the GPIO tool, here's what I got:

• Bit0 = fully working sound on C/Sub port and Front Headphone port at the same time . Static noise on Rear Headphone port.
• Bit1 = No sound. Very low volume of music coming out of the C/sub port (when placing the speakers to my ears).
• Bit2 = No sound at all from any port.
• Bit3 = Again very low volume music output from the C/Sub port. Static noise on Line-Out port.
• Bit0+3 = fully working sound on C/Sub port and Front Headphone port. Static noise on Line-Out port.
• Bit0+2+3 = fully working sound on C/Sub port and Front Headphone port. Static noise on Line-Out port.
• All_on = fully working sound on C/Sub port and Front Headphone port. Static noise on Line-Out port.

That's an amazing progress! Mic ports (both rear and front) still work too. I'm personally content with this (at least one rear port and one front port working), but if you wish to explore it further in the sake of improving the Hackintosh experience for all those with this codec, I'm all for it!

 

[Dajokeisonu]

Hey I have Alienware 17r3 currently using VoodooHDA but its half works the sound works its crappy and I can't control the audio how can I get full sound control and better audio I have the Creative CA0132 codec? Can someone please help me im a newbie not very familiar with all the terms?

 

[giorov]

Ugh, I'm on a Z370 Aorus Gaming WIFI I got tricked into buying from a site where they said they had no problem getting hackintosh running on it. (I guess gigabyte was paying them to promo a crappy mobo or something)

Had to get a Fenvi card for wifi and will have ot use this solution you crafted for TravelerTechie and co. since the board uses the ZxRi also. I just hope it works well for audio production or we will have to get an add-in PCIe card.

***update** In terms of audio, BobDobbs, I see, has the same MoBo. Worried about crackling and popping and whatnot... Do you think getting a PCIe card could fix such issues or would it be more worthwhile to just write off the motherboard cost and get one with better native audio support and no crackling? **
**update2**The Creative® Sound Core 3D CA0132-4AN is on the Z370 Aorus Gaming WIFI according to a Gigabyte tech person.***

Just about to put everything together and start working on kexts and whatnot. Kicking myself about this board.