Apple Introduces New MacBook Air and Mac Mini

[pastrychef]

Nice to know...



It sounds awesome!!
I think that the Asrock H370M-ITX/ac seems one of the best for a mac mini 2018 config (6 SATA, and not 4 as all the other brands in ITX with z/h370 generation).

It would be great if the Mac Mini uses the H370 chipset. I some users have had difficulty getting everything running right with H370.

I think that's the chipset that makes the most sense for a Mac Mini, there's no need for Apple to pay extra for Z370 or Z390 chipset since there isn't any need for the additional PCI-e lanes.

It would be aweome if they also used the new Intel Wi-Fi.

 

[WonkeyDonkey]

It also has USB 3.1 Gen 2, unlike the Z370 version.

 

[pastrychef]

It also has USB 3.1 Gen 2, unlike the Z370 version.

USB 3.1 gen 2 isn't a concern for me since there's native support for ASMedia chipsets already and USB 3.1 gen 2 has been working OOTB since Z170.

 

[WonkeyDonkey]

USB 3.1 gen 2 isn't a concern for me since there's native support for ASMedia chipsets already and USB 3.1 gen 2 has been working OOTB since Z170.

That's useful to know. I've been too tight to upgrade from Haswell until now

 

[pastrychef]

That's useful to know. I've been too tight to upgrade from Haswell until now

Yes, macOS has native support for the ASMedia chipsets used in Z170-Z370. Early reports from Z390 users seem to indicate that Intel USB 3.1 gen 2 is working as well.

 

[WonkeyDonkey]

Has anyone seen an ioreg from the new Mini yet ? That would tell us a lot more about the internals.

 

[trs96]

Has anyone seen an ioreg from the new Mini yet ? That would tell us a lot more about the internals.

Try contacting Quinn Nelson he has one and could run an ioreg for you. He's a member here.
https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
http://www.snazzylabs.com/
He also has a Youtube channel.

 

[Jamieson]

Wow. You're right. I didn't even know of the existence of an i7-8700B.

What doesn't make sense is that both the i7-8700 and i7-8700B are 65W TDP and both have the same clocks.

Can it be that the i7-8700B is just an i7-8700 without the IHS? Because as far as I can tell everything else is the same.

Edit:
Just found another difference. The i7-8700B uses BGA1440 while i7-8700 is LGA1151.

I think the difference is only in the package. Even the price of both are the same.

Source: https://cpubase.com/compare/intel-core-i7-8700-vs-intel-core-i7-8700b

Put simply: the 8700B is literally just a 8700, but soldered to the chipset for mobile platforms. Apparently the only advantage is a higher working temp range.
See: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/133/Intel_Core_i7_Mobile_i7-8700B_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-8700.html

 

[Jamieson]

Thanks! Would you care to share your ioreg so we can start to get an idea of what else they used in terms of hardware ?

I've never done an ioreg, so point me to how, and I'll generate one for you.

 

[pastrychef]

Put simply: the 8700B is literally just a 8700, but soldered to the chipset for mobile platforms. Apparently the only advantage is a higher working temp range.
See: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/133/Intel_Core_i7_Mobile_i7-8700B_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-8700.html

I prefer it this way. Easier to apply liquid metal. Lol