Asus Z690 ProArt Creator WiFi (Thunderbolt 4) + i7-12700K + AMD RX 6800 XT

[dehjomz]

Thunderbolt 5 is coming folks. Intel announced. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-introduces-thunderbolt-5-standard.html

 

[etorix]

Thunderbolt 5 is coming folks.

There was little doubt about that, or even about most specifications. What's new is the official name—no USB-like silliness but a plain number bump.
I don't want to rain on the parade but two caveats are due:

• "available starting in 2024"—without even a qualifying quarter;
• Apple is highly unlikely to provide drivers for Barlow Ridge; whether Barlow Ridge can nevertheless be made to work with a Hackintosh (and if so, to which extent) is unknown.

 

[CaseySJ]

From the referenced link:

Thunderbolt 5 builds upon Thunderbolt 4 in several ways, including:

• Two times the total bi-directional bandwidth; Bandwidth Boost provides up to three times the throughput for video-intensive usage, up to 120 Gbps.
• Double the PCI Express data throughput for faster storage and external graphics.
• Built on industry standards including USB4 V2, DisplayPort 2.1 and PCI Express Gen 4; fully compatible with previous versions.
• Double the bandwidth of Thunderbolt Networking for high-speed PC-to-PC connections.
• Utilizes a new signaling technology, PAM-3, to deliver these significant increases in performance with today’s printed circuit boards, connectors and passive cables up to 1 meter.

The first bullet seems full of caveats: Bandwidth Boost provides up to 3 times the throughput for video-intensive usage, up to 120 Gbps. Not sure what this means. It may just be referring to the DisplayPort pins.

USB4 V2. First time I've seen this nomenclature. Makes sense if it's the same connector with the same number of input and output pins, but rated for higher bandwidth.

PCI Express Gen 4. This was expected. So it's still 4 PCIe lanes, but running twice as fast.

 

[Rag]

Hello, I updated to 0.96 and I have received this information in open core, do I need to do something to resolve it?

Thanks

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NOTE: This version of ocvalidate is only compatible with OpenCore version 0.9.3!
OCS: No schema for InstanceIdentifier at 4 index, context <Boot>!
Serialisation returns 1 error!
Completed validating /Volumes/EFI-WD_-631/EFI/OC/config.plist in 1 ms. Found 1 issue requiring attention.
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[zappy39]

Hello, I updated to 0.96 and I have received this information in open core, do I need to do something to resolve it?

Thanks

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NOTE: This version of ocvalidate is only compatible with OpenCore version 0.9.3!
OCS: No schema for InstanceIdentifier at 4 index, context <Boot>!
Serialisation returns 1 error!
Completed validating /Volumes/EFI-WD_-631/EFI/OC/config.plist in 1 ms. Found 1 issue requiring attention.
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opencore UEFI/Output InitialMode = Auto

 

[Rag]

opencore UEFI/Output InitialMode = Auto

I tried your suggestion.. but the problem continues...

 

[Rag]

Hello,
You must use the ocvalidate tool from OC 0.9.6 , not that from OC 0.9.3.

@Update:

View attachment 571448
Cheers.

Thanks.

But I don't know how to change this, unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to get to this point and correct it.

If you have time and can you tell me the steps to correct it.

Thanks.

 

[Rag]

Please attach here a copy of your current config.plist.
Is there a reason to setup OC 0.9.6 ? Right now, OC 0.9.5 is the stable release.

Thanks, I attach.

 

[dehjomz]

From the referenced link:


The first bullet seems full of caveats: Bandwidth Boost provides up to 3 times the throughput for video-intensive usage, up to 120 Gbps. Not sure what this means. It may just be referring to the DisplayPort pins.

USB4 V2. First time I've seen this nomenclature. Makes sense if it's the same connector with the same number of input and output pins, but rated for higher bandwidth.

PCI Express Gen 4. This was expected. So it's still 4 PCIe lanes, but running twice as fast.

USB4v2 was announced last year with a doubling of bidirectional bandwidth to 80 Gbps. They’re switching to pam3 signaling to achieve the doubling of speed. They’re also tunneling PCIe4, and an engineering change notification was added in 2023 to add the option to tunnel PCIe5.

Regarding the 120 Gbps mode, it will be asymmetrical. 120 Gbps in one direction and 40 in the other. Apparently, it will only be available for monitors, not for PCIe. Only certain monitors will enable the asymmetric mode.

Thunderbolt 5 is based on USB4v2, with most of the optional features enabled. The only thing that will remain optional is the power delivery capability. Some Thunderbolt hosts will have a 140W charging port. Others have the option to scale all the way up to 240W.

 

[dehjomz]

There was little doubt about that, or even about most specifications. What's new is the official name—no USB-like silliness but a plain number bump.
I don't want to rain on the parade but two caveats are due:

• "available starting in 2024"—without even a qualifying quarter;
• Apple is highly unlikely to provide drivers for Barlow Ridge; whether Barlow Ridge can nevertheless be made to work with a Hackintosh (and if so, to which extent) is unknown.

Seems like it will be somewhat similar to Thunderbolt 4 in terms of a software-based connection manager and support for an iommu. The difference will be the type of signaling (Pam-3) to enable 80 Gbps mode. So there might need to be kernel support to enable 80 Gbps mode… Intel added code to the Linux kernel to do exactly that. And macOS likely won’t ever have that enabled for Intel-x86.

But, maybe it will be a non-issue if the pre-boot connection manager might enable that mode, who knows ?