Z790 Chipset & Raptor Lake

[nottooshabby]

My CPU_OPT is set to silent/auto mode. It seems strange that you have fan issue in windows, did you installed pump control app? For me I need to install nzxt cam in windows. I can control pump/fan speed. Did you try use liquidctl in macos to find you pump and control it?

Does liquidctl allow you to control fan speed? My AIO is a thermal take 360mm, three fans a pump. All are voltage controlled. If I can control the fans in macOS, I would be in good shape.

 

[nottooshabby]

Hi,

I had the similar issue when using VirtualSMC. My iStatsMenu won't show me anything. After some Google-fu I decided to switch to FakeSMC(3) and installed Intel Power Gadget, and now I can monitor the CPU temp and other metrics.

Do give it a try. Don't forget to back up your running EFI as a restore point. I used the following Kexts:
1. FakeSMC (directly under Lilu, #2 boot order)
2. ACPIMonitor
3. IntelCPUMonitor
4. RadeonMonitor

Edit: Also, your MB is probably "enhancing" your CPU. 13th gen CPU are known to boost to the absolute TjMax temp for the best performance. Try setting PL1 and PL2 to a more reasonable level. I have a 13600K, I set the PL1 to 125W and PL2 to 180W for a duration of 253 sec - It is running surprisingly fine on my NZXT 140mm AIO.

Besides, LGA 1700 has been plagued by uneven mounting pressure since 12th gen. So a possible fix is to buy a contact frame on Amazon. Do try the FakeSMC out first to see what kind of temp your CPU is idling at, it could very well be a mounting pressure issue - your cooler isn't making good contact with your CPU.

I haven't used FakeSMC in a long time. I will give it a try and see if iStatMenus will report the temps. I am using power gadget's GUI at the moment. Intel power gadget shows I am hitting about 250W. Temps are fine, ~90C at peak load, as long as the fans and pump are running. Idle is in the 20s.

 

[Feartech]

I haven't used FakeSMC in a long time. I will give it a try and see if iStatMenus will report the temps. I am using power gadget's GUI at the moment. Intel power gadget shows I am hitting about 250W. Temps are fine, ~90C at peak load, as long as the fans and pump are running. Idle is in the 20s.

if you add SMCProcessor.kext and SMCSuperIO.kext with VirtualSMC.kext, your temps should show up

 

[casstsai]

Hopefully we find a solution. I have noticed that people with the K processors seem to be having the problem and KF are not....Maybe that is something.

i disable above 4g decoding in my bios,and add npci=0x2000 boot-args,the second sleep issue disappear。but wifi turns off when wakeup,i have to turn it on manually。still working on it!

 

[nottooshabby]

if you add SMCProcessor.kext and SMCSuperIO.kext with VirtualSMC.kext, your temps should show up

I have those, but they don't seem to work for Raptor Lake.

 

[nottooshabby]

Hi,

I had the similar issue when using VirtualSMC. My iStatsMenu won't show me anything. After some Google-fu I decided to switch to FakeSMC(3) and installed Intel Power Gadget, and now I can monitor the CPU temp and other metrics.

Do give it a try. Don't forget to back up your running EFI as a restore point. I used the following Kexts:
1. FakeSMC (directly under Lilu, #2 boot order)
2. ACPIMonitor
3. IntelCPUMonitor
4. RadeonMonitor

Edit: Also, your MB is probably "enhancing" your CPU. 13th gen CPU are known to boost to the absolute TjMax temp for the best performance. Try setting PL1 and PL2 to a more reasonable level. I have a 13600K, I set the PL1 to 125W and PL2 to 180W for a duration of 253 sec - It is running surprisingly fine on my NZXT 140mm AIO.

Besides, LGA 1700 has been plagued by uneven mounting pressure since 12th gen. So a possible fix is to buy a contact frame on Amazon. Do try the FakeSMC out first to see what kind of temp your CPU is idling at, it could very well be a mounting pressure issue - your cooler isn't making good contact with your CPU.

That worked! I can see the temps now in iStatMenus with FakeSMC. I see temps for 16 cores, although the numerical ordering is a bit off. Is this what you see? What does ACPI Monitor do?

 

[todd]

Does liquidctl allow you to control fan speed? My AIO is a thermal take 360mm, three fans a pump. All are voltage controlled. If I can control the fans in macOS, I would be in good shape.

I can only control my pump which is actually a usb device, The fan is controlled by the bios I think.

 

[nottooshabby]

I can only control my pump which is actually a usb device, The fan is controlled by the bios I think.

Ok. That probably won't help then. My pump has just a 3pin fan connection. The bios totally loses fan control after sleep.

 

[ddmilkshake]

That worked! I can see the temps now in iStatMenus with FakeSMC. I see temps for 16 cores, although the numerical ordering is a bit off. Is this what you see? What does ACPI Monitor do?

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Yes this is exactly what I see. As you may have noticed, the Multiplier is way off, but that's how it is on mine as well - At least we can see the temps, freq, and voltage, I'd call that a win.

As to what ACPI monitor does, I really don't know if it even work on Z690/Z790 (I have a Z690 board). Check out this link: https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/309328-howto-acpi-access-for-monitoring/

 

[nottooshabby]

Well, after weeks of working on it, I think I am going to return my Z790 Aero G. The good news is I now have a fully working MSI Z690 Force w/13900K with none of the issues of the Z790 Aero G.

The issues w/ my Z790 Aero G:

1. When I first got it up and running, I booted into windows. Temps seemed reasonable during benchmarks, around ~95C. I was able to undervolt to get it down to ~90C. What I noticed in MacOs, was after the first sleep, sometimes the benchmarks would take a really long time, and then the system would shut off. iStatMenus wasn't reporting temps, and I didn't realize intel Power gadget had it's own GUI. I finally went back to windows and tried a benchmark after putting the system to sleep. I was shocked to see the temps immediately jumped up to 100C. I realized the fans were not spinning faster under load. I also found that the CPU_OPT fan connection would not even power a fan after sleep(using voltage setting). I don't know if this is a bios problem or a issue with my specific motherboard, but regardless, it cooked my CPU and my only option is to run fans at a fixed speed to workaround the problem.

2. The latest bios F4g does not support titan ridge. I had to downgrade to F3 to get my titan ridge card to be recognized. This may mean that I may not be able to upgrade the bios beyond F3 if I want to use my Thunderbolt Display.

3. The system would crash on the second sleep. I was able to work around this by setting above 4G decoding to Auto and using a 13900KF, but then I experienced other problems that may be related to not using above 4G decoding. I also found the wifi was flakey using the intel kext. I am not experiencing the issue with the Z690 board.

Issue #1 may be a flaw in my board. #2 may be remedied w/ a bios update, but it looks like gigabyte intentionally dropped support for TR. #3 may be fixed w/ other bios changes, but I don't have the system together anymore to try them. I am a bit disappointed I couldn't get it working, as aesthetically it fits my white build better than the MSI board(it's more silver instead of white). I also like the fact I could swap out the intel CNVI card w/broadcom. The MSI cnvi is locked to intel. The Z790 Aero G will support faster memory, but at the moment, the two boards benchmark the same. I am not sure I am going to spend money in the future on faster DDR5 ram as I already splurged for 6200MHz RAM.