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giobox said:
Honestly I'm not sure it is "a lot of people". Technically there are so few "real" Mac models left that Sierra supports that have a slot for a GPU upgrade, especially since Sierra arbitrarily cuts support for perfectly capable pre-2010 Mac Pro models. Outside of these the only users for this driver is the relatively small community of hackintosh users.

I say this as someone in same boat as you - a disappointed person waiting to purchase a 1070 for a dual-boot machine.
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I hear you! I've been following this thread since page 1, just waiting to order a 1070. No support so far :(

In that spirit I was incredibly disappointed by the keynote on the 7th this month. I was secretly hoping for a new MacPro. Or a MBP with NVidia inside - preferably Pascal ofc :)

I still haven't given up hope but it seems Apple has been focusing much much more on portability and battery life than on computing productivity... my last hope is that Adobe drops support for the Mac - I think that might be our salvation - if it makes them realize that there is a segment of the market in which they could be doing things better - i.e. Desktop computers.
 
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In that spirit I was incredibly disappointed by the keynote on the 7th this month. I was secretly hoping for a new MacPro. Or a MBP with NVidia inside - preferably Pascal ofc :)
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In the Arstechnica review of Sierra they said that Macintosh hasn't so much as been mentioned on stage at an Apple keynote for more than 18 months. The few upgrades there have been in that time have been released relatively quietly.
 
There are a lot of people waiting for this... Throughout the world there are more Hackintosh/eGPU users than you might think. Thunderbolt/eGPU is really our salvation for continued driver support. The Hackintosh community shouldn't be underestimated as Nvidia no doubt pays attention to who buys their product and what it's being used for.

On another note, I have practically moved to Windows 10. Little by little I'm watching my Apple devices being replaced by enthusiast/workstation grade equipment. The only Apple products I have left are mobile based - iPhone/iPad etc. I just got rid of my AirPort Extreme in favor of an Asus router. I still prefer MacOS over all, but Apple certainly has ignored their pro client base which is disappointing to say the least.

I think there will be a Pascal driver, but it may be one of the last... We shall see. I still have my 980 Ti's sitting on a shelf just in case... Remember how long it took for Maxwell support. Nine months I think? Patience is key. I too am getting antsy as I have installed the 1080s and my Mac OS looks like a potato.
 
I've tried to get along with Windows 10 but like every other version it's largely a mystery to me. Where are all the files kept? Why are there two Programs folders? Why do some things put critical files in Appdata, others in Documents or the install folder?

I can tolerate it for games and web browsing but I'm too ingrained in the Mac way to make a permanent switch.
 
onmybikedrunk said:
There are a lot of people waiting for this... Throughout the world there are more Hackintosh/eGPU users than you might think. Thunderbolt/eGPU is really our salvation for continued driver support. The Hackintosh community shouldn't be underestimated as Nvidia no doubt pays attention to who buys their product and what it's being used for.
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True I forgot to mention eGPU use cases. But realistically how many of those actually exist today? The cost of Thunderbolt eGPU enclosures has always been completely mad or involved extremely convoluted construction processes, not to mention that until Thunderbolt 3 ships in meaningful quantities there will be significant performance penalties. Seems kinda silly to me to bandwidth limit a flagship GPU part over TB2. Big enough market to justify paying a team of six-figure salaried engineers and QAs in Santa Clara to build and maintain? I really don't see it.

Our only hope is that Nvidia feel they need to keep maintaining the driver in the hope of an Apple design win for Pascal in the future. That's a much more solid business justification to my eyes.

Codding horror recently ran a great blog post on high-end eGPU gaming over TB3. While it's technically completely viable, the TB3 dock was $499(!).
 
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garner said:
I've tried to get along with Windows 10 but like every other version it's largely a mystery to me. Where are all the files kept? Why are there two Programs folders? Why do some things put critical files in Appdata, others in Documents or the install folder?

I can tolerate it for games and web browsing but I'm too ingrained in the Mac way to make a permanent switch.
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Linux is far closer to OSX than Windows. Of course it's still not OSX, as it lacks some key technologies such as app bundles, fat binaries, DMG support, etc, but it can run all the UNIX software. You can even set clang as your default compiler if you wish. And you have commercial professional 3D suites, like Maya, Houdini, Pixar RenderMan... Also scientific apps like Mathematica. If you need the real MS Office, I believe you can run it through Wine (but I'm not sure about this).

It's sad that no open source OS supports OSX bits like app bundles or many other must-have things, while at the same time supporting latest GPUs from NVIDIA and AMD. If it existed, the future would be sweet for all Mac users who need current GPUs.
 
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True I forgot to mention eGPU use cases. But realistically how many of those actually exist today? The cost of Thunderbolt eGPU enclosures has always been completely mad or involved extremely convoluted construction processes, not to mention that until Thunderbolt 3 ships in meaningful quantities there will be significant performance penalties. Seems kinda silly to me to bandwidth limit a flagship GPU part over TB2. Big enough market to justify paying a team of six-figure salaried engineers and QAs in Santa Clara to build and maintain? I really don't see it.

Our only hope is that Nvidia feel they need to keep maintaining the driver in the hope of an Apple design win for Pascal in the future. That's a much more solid business justification to my eyes.

Codding horror recently ran a great blog post on high-end eGPU gaming over TB3. While it's technically completely viable, the TB3 dock was $499(!).
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I really hope this market takes off -- since more competition = more affordable solutions for consumers -- on top of that it will push nVidia and AMD to take OS X drivers seriously (but highly unlikely).

TB3 supports native eGPU protocols. TB2 didn't. Also TB3 uses a universal plug -- micro USB-C 3.1 -- so that will help with things too.

For a while I was really moving towards getting a TB2 enclosure but I just decided to build a hackintosh instead. There's also the Razer Core which looks to be a really good solution, but $499 for a damn box?
 
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