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With TRIM, Errors - Without TRIM, No Errors??

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GeraldB said:
I have the same issue on my build since update to High Sierra. Everything work fine but this message at boot is killing me. So, TRIM disable will disable that message? I have 2 Samsung EVO 850 SSD and 1 old harddisk in my case.
At start it shows:
APFS start 1384
efi_fusion_pairing . something not rolling message.
efi_fusion_pairing . something not rolling message.

B.t.w. For me it doesn't change when I turn off Trim. I have tried that. Also removing other drivers at startup doesn't change a thing. I don't have a fusion drive or never have used one.
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I have found in an other forum that installing the CsmVideoDxe.efi driver into drivers64UEFI in EFI Clover does suppress this message display. For my build it really does!
 
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Can anybody recomend me, if i can turn trim with "sudo trimforce enable" on my SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SATA? I have macOS High Sierra 10.13.1 instaled without any problem, all is running like a charm, but i dont know if it's safe turn on trim after read about some issues in this support forum. In previous 10.12 system Sierra i has trim enabled. Second question: if i leave trim turned off, can it destroy my ssd (a shorter ssd life or data lose)?

thanks from slovakia

My Hardware:
MB - Gigabyte Z170M-D3H
CPU - Intel i3-6320 3.9 GHz
RAM - 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
VGA - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB
SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SATA
HDD - WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0 3 TB
Case Cooltek UMX3 - Silver
WIFI - TP-Link Archer T9E 802.11AC AC1900

EDIT: 13. nov. 2017
Trying turn TRIM ON with "sudo trimforce enable" in terminal without any problem on my macOS High Sierra 10.13.1.
Booting is such as fast as TRIM was OFF, so no slowing down at boot (only first restart was about 5 seconds longer as always when you do some changes with multibeast/kext ). Work flow without problem, try editing in Photoshop, Final Cut X Pro, On1 Photo RAW, Safari browsing. So it seems OK after one day testing my SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SATA with TRIM ON.
samsung evo 80 trim.jpg
 
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RehabMan said:
Use HFS+J instead of APFS.
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Hi @RehabMan. I am suffering from the similar issue.
Would you mean that, for NVMe SSD, the Trim is always enabled and will cause slow boot issue.

However, when I try to install 10.13.1 on a HFS+J partition, after the installation, the partition is converted to APFS automatically.

So that, how can I to handle such slow boot problem? Thanks.
 
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