Apple Silicon Mac Pro Revealed at WWDC 2023

[Bustycat]

The Mac Studio and Mac Pro maximum power consumptions are officially released.

Mac Studio power consumption and thermal output (BTU) information

Learn about the power consumption and thermal output of Mac Studio computers.

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Mac Studio (M2 Max): 145W
Mac Studio (M2 Ultra): 295W

Mac Pro power consumption and thermal output (BTU/h) information

Learn about the power consumption and thermal output of Mac Pro computers.

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Mac Pro (M2 Ultra, 60-core GPU): 300W
Mac Pro (M2 Ultra, 76-core GPU): 330W

While the previous generation of Mac Pro consumed 430W or 902W.

 

[etorix]

Nice find! The Mac Pro 2023 comes close to the figures of the 2013 model: 50 W idle, 300 W load (vs. 45 W / 250 W).

For the 2019 Mac Pro, the worrying figures are not so much those under load (after all, it's doing work…) that those at idle: 100 W for the base model, 300 W for the top configuration—that's a lot of power for doing absolutely nothing.

By contrast, the Mac Studio sips power at idle: About 10 W. And the M2 Mac Studio draws even less at idle that its M1 sibling. That's very impressive, and Apple keeps improving.
These figures demonstrate Apple's goals for power use, and such goals could not be met with x86 and a discrete GPU.

 

[pastrychef]

Because the case is an architectural piece of art. But let’s be honest that black etched daughter board, the extra TB ports, the extra USB-A and the cpu cooler are at least with $1000.00

Apple's attention to detail is impeccable and the quality of the materials are unparalleled in the computer industry.

Power Mac and Mac Pro cases from a decade or more ago are still coveted by many. How many people covet the tin can like cases from PC makers?

You get what you pay for...

 

[trs96]

It looks like no matter how hard you push the M2 Ultra SoC you can't make it over heat and it doesn't even consume close to 80W of power when stress testing. This was a test MaxTech ran on their new Mac Studio. Note also that P cores never went above 83C. So Apple has finally reached the point where a small cube won't overheat and thermal throttle, no matter how hard it's pushed. This means that the M2 Ultra Mac Pro should also not have any thermal issues. It has large front fans, lots of room for airflow and a massive SoC heatsink. The fan made no noise during the stress test either. Good job Apple.

 

[bombardier10]

M1 Ultra chip reach max 50 C when full load. M2 Ultra chip reach max 85 C .
Future M3 Ultra chip probably ...100 C or more. Welcome to the world of high performance and high temperatures
Finally, after four or five years, Apple will realize that it has reached a barrier that Intel is already overcoming today.
We are waiting for the first liquid cooling a in the MacPro, which will probably be advertised by Apple as a great innovation. For now, archaic fans are sufficient. Good marketing Apple !

 

[trs96]

Max at MaxTech YT channel compares the M2 Mac Studio and new MP Tower. Both run cool and quiet.

 

[Bustycat]

M1 Ultra chip reach max 50 C when full load. M2 Ultra chip reach max 85 C .
Future M3 Ultra chip probably ...100 C or more. Welcome to the world of high performance and high temperatures
Finally, after four or five years, Apple will realize that it has reached a barrier that Intel is already overcoming today.
We are waiting for the first liquid cooling a in the MacPro, which will probably be advertised by Apple as a great innovation. For now, archaic fans are sufficient. Good marketing Apple !

Or Apple just constrained M1 Ultra too much.

 

[bombardier10]

Or Apple just constrained M1 Ultra too much.

Apple has a big problem to increase the performance of the new generation M2 chip by up to 20% . The performance increase of the next generation will be less and less. Theoretically mac Pro with M2 Ultra can be change to M3 Ultra for up to four years ....

 

[Bustycat]

Apple has a big problem to increase the performance of the new generation M2 chip by up to 20% . The performance increase of the next generation will be less and less. Theoretically mac Pro with M2 Ultra can be change to M3 Ultra for up to four years ....

It's predicted that the M3 series will increase performances significantly due to the 3nm node, but M3 Ultra would be the last to introduce in probably 2025.

 

[pastrychef]

It's predicted that the M3 series will increase performances significantly due to the 3nm node, but M3 Ultra would be the last to introduce in probably 2025.

Besides the shrinking process nodes, Armv9 and Armv9.2 also offer significant performance and efficiency improvements.