New Apple Silicon Macs: MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini

[trs96]

Mac V Mac

Nick, what will you do with all of your HP and Dell hackintoshes ?

 

[nicksoph]

Nick, what will you do with all of your HP and Dell hackintoshes ?

Donated to peeps who dont have a pc and only have a couple left - Im Windows based on most of my work - the mac is a toy until I can run a VM on on it - I need linux for dev work.

My guess is that the fan in the MacBook Pro will probably remain off most of the time. The M1 doesn't look like it need much active cooling, so even when the fan is on, it'll probably be running at a very low RPM.

Good review and discussion here - suggests it needs to run at 100% for 10 mins before fan comes on.

Other benchmarks from here

This chart may have a mistake on first line - think the Mac mini should be 7780 on that line too.

 

[buddyjack2]

Does anyone know if an M1 Mac would run Mojave OSX 10.14?

 

[pastrychef]

Does anyone know if an M1 Mac would run Mojave OSX 10.14?

Most probably not.

 

[buddyjack2]

That's what I was afraid of. Need to replace an old Mini that's still running some 32-bit apps

 

[Armoured]

This is why I stated a few days ago that the big Mac mini server farms like MacStadium and Macincolo are going to buy tens of thousands of these because they'll make less noise and produce less heat. The chassis is the same as the old one. That makes is super easy to install these machines in place of the older models.

Yes - although my understanding is a lot of stuff in datacentres is moving or has moved to arm-type chips (not the apple specialists of course), but still - performance / power consumption is a new bar.

 

[thedocbwarren]

Does anyone know if an M1 Mac would run Mojave OSX 10.14?

How could it, It's written for Intel. Big Sur is the first release for M1s.

 

[nicksoph]

Youtube Intel V M1 13" Pro and some compares to Dell XPS with Tiger Lake (XPS a close 2nd)
M1 had 47% left after the 3 tests run consecutively.

 

[scottkendall]

That's great. I never really believed the rumor that only 4 of the 8 cores could be active at one time.

They must have solved it or disabled the switching, because I for sure read a few articles about the A12 chips and how they only allowed the big cores or the baby cores active at the same time. It had something to do with power leakage and how the baby cores did not scale up well with more power and the big cores did not scale down well with less power thus providing better performance if it was one or the other. I wish I could locate the article.

 

[dehjomz]

Gentlemen, I had so much fun building hackintoshes, solving clover and open core issues, building a custom USB ssdt, flashing my thunderbolt controller, editing the DROM portion of my thunderbolt SSDT, flashing my Samsung SSDs so that they doesn’t crash the macOS kernel, setting the correct ALCid so I have sound, solving sleep issues.

But when m2/m3 comes, with higher core counts and increased IPC (on 3 nm or below) I’m moving on, unless intel pulls a rabbit out of a hat. PCIe5 and DDR5 seem very interesting on z690 or AMD Am5, but will it even be enough? Apple has been increasing IPC by 20 percent or more for 7+ years straight. Can intel or AMD match or exceed that level of yearly innovation on x86? Is x86 the constraint?? According to reviews, for some apps, Apple m1 runs emulated/translated x86 code FASTER than the native intel x86 processor can run it. Think about that...Apple’s x86 emulation is faster than the native processor, and the m1 processor consumes far less power while doing so. That is an embarrassment.

I will still have a custom built pc, but that will be to game. For Macintosh , I am going to buy an actual Macintosh. And I will be happy.