pastrychef's Asus ROG Strix Z370-G Gaming (WI-FI AC) build w/ i9-9900K + AMD 6600 XT

[Gigamaxx]

Well as far as they are concerned, this only affects the users of the vintage/discontinued Mac Pro 5,1 from 2010/2012, which is a diminishingly small demographic, so you can imagine how far down in their priority list this is.

Another thing is the existing native drivers for nvidia are still being worked on for bugs. Is Apple doing this themselves? Is nvidia helping to write these for metal2? It seems there are a lot of variables to this saga. I haven’t heard any official word from Apple has anyone on this issue?

 

[pastrychef]

I see you're fully prepared and battle ready . I predict an easy all-core 5.0Ghz, coming your way (unless you're very unlucky with your sample, which I really hope you're not).

After that, you shouldn't have much trouble boosting all the other per-core frequencies by 300Mhz (1-2 cores -> 5.3Ghz, 3-4 cores -> 5.2Ghz, etc.). That should give a nice increase in performance in single/lightly-threaded workloads.

I also saw your prime95 test and you should be fine with the 9900K (especially with the fujipoly pads). Your CPU temps during the test were exceptional, considering the low fan speeds.

Wow. I don't have such lofty hopes. Lol. I would be happy with a solid 5GHz all core overclock with low voltage and temps.

Yes, as I've said, the Noctua coolers and fans are fantastic. I changed the secondary heatsink fan to an NF-A12x25 PWM and it made all the difference in the world.

 

[sahandii]

Okay first problem encountered lol ..
Everything seems to work fine so far, I installed the web drivers (version 387.10.10.10.40.105) and rebooted, it showed the native resolution as it should. I tried to play around with the Display settings, and turned off 'Overscan' which made it look weird again, and now that option is gone, so I can't revert it back to the optimized resolution?

In the 'About this Mac' section it first recognized the Display as a 5MB graphics before the problem occured, but now it actually shows the real Nvidia model GPU in the settings, which I guess it shouldn't right? Is it mixing up the kexts with the web driver maybe, or what do you think it is? Thx for the help guys ..

 

[pastrychef]

Okay first problem encountered lol ..
Everything seems to work fine so far, I installed the web drivers (version 387.10.10.10.40.105) and rebooted, it showed the native resolution as it should. I tried to play around with the Display settings, and turned off 'Overscan' which made it look weird again, and now that option is gone, so I can't revert it back to the optimized resolution?

In the 'About this Mac' section it first recognized the Display as a 5MB graphics before the problem occured, but now it actually shows the real Nvidia model GPU in the settings, which I guess it shouldn't right? Is it mixing up the kexts with the web driver maybe, or what do you think it is? Thx for the help guys ..

Sorry. I no longer have an Nvidia card to test... I suggest try asking for help in the Graphics sub-forum.

 

[Sofronis]

Wow. I don't have such lofty hopes. Lol. I would be happy with a solid 5GHz all core overclock with low voltage and temps.

Yes, as I've said, the Noctua coolers and fans are fantastic. I changed the secondary heatsink fan to an NF-A12x25 PWM and it made all the difference in the world.

Maxing out 1-2 cores (as it often happens during typical use) doesn't draw a lot of power and temps stay low (usually around 50℃). Under these conditions, you can push well beyond 5Ghz (the default for 1-2 cores, is already at 5Ghz for 9900K). My mediocre 8700K (1.38v for all-core 5Ghz) runs fine at 5.2Ghz, when up to 2 cores are loaded. A typical 9900K should be able to clock higher due to the improved 14nm++ manufacturing process.

You can see in the attachment, how I've had my 8700K set up for quite some time now, without any problems. I tested using prime95 by progressively adding threads and stress tested each added thread for 1 hour.

That Noctua fan is indeed very good, but I wish it wasn't so expensive.

 

[scottkendall]

Well, NVIDIA claims the drivers have been written and are awaiting Apple's approval.

So, they're fighting - Apple and NVIDIA. But the people who are really hurt are not Apple or NVIDIA as they battle back and forth over this, and that, and every other petty little detail.

It's us, the end users, who are the ones who really get hurt in the ongoing ego battles between two large companies.......

Apple has a product and has desired level of quality that they wish their product to provide. This is why they do not sell the OS to be installed on all hardware, and that is why this site exists. If Nvidia can not write a driver that provides this level of quality and after the interface stutters in HS with web drivers I can't say I do not blame them. Apple is known to phase stuff out look what they just did with Mojave and older GPU's, in the future they may not allow Nvidia web drivers at all.

 

[pastrychef]

Maxing out 1-2 cores (as it often happens during typical use) doesn't draw a lot of power and temps stay low (usually around 50℃). Under these conditions, you can push well beyond 5Ghz (the default for 1-2 cores, is already at 5Ghz for 9900K). My mediocre 8700K (1.38v for all-core 5Ghz) runs fine at 5.2Ghz, when up to 2 cores are loaded. A typical 9900K should be able to clock higher due to the improved 14nm++ manufacturing process.

You can see in the attachment, how I've had my 8700K set up for quite some time now, without any problems. I tested using prime95 by progressively adding threads and stress tested each added thread for 1 hour.

That Noctua fan is indeed very good, but I wish it wasn't so expensive.

Hmm. Interesting. I'll have to give that a try when I install the 9900K. Thanks!

 

[CyCLoBoT]

@pastrychef, is the DRM content viewable while having the iGPU enabled? I am looking to upgrade my mATX rig and was thinking about purchasing same components as what you're using.

 

[pastrychef]

@pastrychef, is the DRM content viewable while having the iGPU enabled? I am looking to upgrade my mATX rig and was thinking about purchasing same components as what you're using.

The last time I tried, iTunes videos didn't play.

The best workaround I've come across is to use a Windows virtual machine for iTunes videos.

 

[pastrychef]

@elfcake and @Sofronis :

I spent all night messing with the Fujipoly and came to the conclusion that whatever Asus is using is much, much better than the Fujipoly.

With the Fujipoly, the CPU was throttling immediately after starting Prime95 and even caused a few sudden reboots.

After putting the stock Asus thermal pads back on, Prime95 ran fine again.

So, stay away from Fujipoly for VRM mosfets.