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  1. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    There is a chance that some tasks might end up on an E core, and run a fair bit slower. What the odds of that happening are? It really depends on who you ask, but general consensus is that it might affect real world experience If you're looking for the snappiest feeling system and/or use your...
  2. chabotc

    Gigabyte Z690 Aero G + i5-12600K + AMD RX 6800 XT

    And let’s not forget how much you can learn about how macOS and computers in general work by building your own hackintosh Hack the planet!
  3. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    Doh, meant the experimental v0.7.7 based EFI you posted earlier with P+E+HT support, which worked flawlessly
  4. chabotc

    Gigabyte Z690 Aero G + i5-12600K + AMD RX 6800 XT

    I managed to get a 2010 / 16000 in geekbench 5 with the i9 12900k. So it seems alright for the time being. We’ll have to see what they release next year tho :) https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/z690-chipset-and-alder-lake-cpus.316618/page-160#post-2295837
  5. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    Hello world! With the start of my holiday break I finally had the time to join the Alder Lake troupe. I used @CaseySJ's experimental 0.7.7 EFI with support for P+E+HT, and running a ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4, 12900K, 64Gb Corsair 3600Mhz C18, 6900 XT and after reading the advice here, a...
  6. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    The thing to look out for is if sometimes something feels a bit more sluggish or slower than normal. Enabling HT vs Enabling E cores have nearly identical benchmark scores, however these benchmarks do not measure what the user experience is if a process you're interacting with is running on an...
  7. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    Hyper threading is just make belief though. It’s basically intel saying that there was some extra capacity left in a core and by pretending one core is two, the OS could use this tiny bit of extra capacity efficiently So it’s not at all close to four E cores against six P cores, it’s really 6 p...
  8. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    Oh I certainly didn’t claim E cores are inherently bad or don’t smell good or anything, they’re wonders of design really I am saying however that in a process scheduler that’s not aware of big vs little cores might not behave you’d like it to Ps Funnily enough on loads that aren’t heavily...
  9. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    Process schedulers tend to favor using the same core for extended durations as it improves things like cache hits So when the kernel sees 24 cores, 8P, 8P HT, and 8E cores, there’s a 8 / 24 chance it will schedule a process on an E core MacOS has no concept of “extra computer cores that are...
  10. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    With intel MacOS not being aware of the difference between high performance and energy efficient cores, it’s very likely that you really don’t want to enable E cores While it would make for a nice multi core benchmark, you’d have a 33% chance that your browser tab, keynote presentation or IDE...
  11. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    This is from a Gigabyte z590 Aorus Master
  12. chabotc

    Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

    You are not wrong on any of the points you’ve made. However you forgot to include the fact that people might have other motivations then you #1 rule of the internet should really be: “Let people enjoy things” Lots of people here enjoying things for various reasons, no need to imply that they...
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