Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming build with working NVRAM

[relaxman]

Pastrychef, you made my day! Installed Catalina coming from a nice UniBeast Mojave set-up, and my working system turned into a nightmare. Followed all your steps and used your Clover SSDT, EFI and kexts and system is ROCK SOLID. Thanks for all the hard work!

 

[LeleTuratti]

Hi @pastrychef! I just realized a build similar to this and I have a problem with Catalina, nothing serious, but I was wondering if it's normal...
When I turn off or reboot, the display freezes and continues to show the desktop background until the machine is completely turned off. Does it happen to you too?
Hardware: Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming - I5-9600KF - RX 5700 XT (native NVRAM enabled)

Out of curiosity, thinking that the problem was connected to the new RX 5700, I also tried to install Catalina on my primary build X299 with RX 590 and the same happens. It seems that the problem is related to Catalina because it doesn't happen on Mojave.
It's normal? Or is there a solution?

 

[pit512]

I believe it’s the new look of shutdown/restart on Catalina... the desktop wallpaper has replaced the black screen with a spinning wheel from previous macOS versions.

 

[pastrychef]

Hi @pastrychef! I just realized a build similar to this and I have a problem with Catalina, nothing serious, but I was wondering if it's normal...
When I turn off or reboot, the display freezes and continues to show the desktop background until the machine is completely turned off. Does it happen to you too?
Hardware: Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming - I5-9600KF - RX 5700 XT (native NVRAM enabled)

Out of curiosity, thinking that the problem was connected to the new RX 5700, I also tried to install Catalina on my primary build X299 with RX 590 and the same happens. It seems that the problem is related to Catalina because it doesn't happen on Mojave.
It's normal? Or is there a solution?

I think this is normal. The shut down process seems to take a longer amount of time now. I thought it was because of my Time Machine but I guess everyone is experiencing the same thing.

 

[LeleTuratti]

I think this is normal. The shut down process seems to take a longer amount of time now. I thought it was because of my Time Machine but I guess everyone is experiencing the same thing.

In my case the shutdown process is not slow, on average 8-12 seconds, Time Machine does not seem to create slowdowns on shutdown.
For now I am still in the testing phase and the shutdown mode was my only doubt... So, soon I will make the final clean installation

 

[pastrychef]

In my case the shutdown process is not slow, on average 8-12 seconds, Time Machine does not seem to create slowdowns on shutdown.
For now I am still in the testing phase and the shutdown mode was my only doubt... So, soon I will make the final clean installation

Why do you need a clean install? Did you install all kinds of crazy stuff in this install?

 

[LeleTuratti]

Did you install all kinds of crazy stuff in this install?

Yes

Because when I start from scratch with a new chipset or version of MacOs I do all the possible tests to check the stability.
Some error between SSDT or Kext can happen, and after numerous tests to find the most correct Overclock, some kernel panic may occur.
I always prefer to start from scratch when I have everything ready and I know it works, so I am sure that nothing in the system has been corrupted. I'm a bit old school on this...
In addition, a clean install is done in 15 minutes, it costs nothing if the system is not configured yet (iCloud, etc.)
...and then it gives me a sense of freshness

 

[pastrychef]

Yes

Because when I start from scratch with a new chipset or version of MacOs I do all the possible tests to check the stability.
Some error between SSDT or Kext can happen, and after numerous tests to find the most correct Overclock, some kernel panic may occur.
I always prefer to start from scratch when I have everything ready and I know it works, so I am sure that nothing in the system has been corrupted. I'm a bit old school on this...
In addition, a clean install is done in 15 minutes, it costs nothing if the system is not configured yet (iCloud, etc.)
...and then it gives me a sense of freshness

I would try to get macOS stable before tying any overclocks. Tweaking overclocks can take weeks to get right...

I went 13 years without a clean install. macOS has been great to me. But I'm very careful about NOT installing crazy stuff to the system. I'm very careful about kexts, launch daemons, etc.

Installing macOS isn't the problem, that's relatively quick. It's all the apps and entering serials n stuff that's a real pain.

 

[LeleTuratti]

It's all the apps and entering serials n stuff that's a real pain.

In fact, first I look for the stability of the system with a temporary installation, then I overclock, and then I clean up. Fortunately I rarely run into problems, I already start with the essentials and everything works fine, but now the clean installation is like a ritual for me

I have to say that I work with software and plugins that don't like system updates, so I prefer to use a system in its final version (like Mojave 10.14.6 for example) and stay on that. I would never do a direct update, I would run the risk of software incompatibility. So, more is clean the system from I starts, better it is for me later.
I had to use Catalina only for RX 5700 support, even if the drivers are not good for now... On Geekbench it has a lower score than the RX 590...

I must admit, however, that the latest versions of MacOS digest the updates better and slow down the system much less than years ago, I noticed it on my Macbook.

 

[jbarnette]

@pastrychef what kinda of GPU scores are you getting with you Radeon VII. you have the 16GB XFX as well right?

Also I'm getting the weird random bog down even with the Magic Trackpad. Though it is less often. Gonna try swiping parts with the other system and see if maybe bad CPU ram or video card maybe. the video card performance score seem pretty low compared to what I see other getting with it under Mac OS