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toleda said:Thank for taking the time to present this valuable feedback. A little history: The Tuneup Kit was the result of user feedback describing difficulties using the CustoMac Mini (graphics hangs, port problems, audio, etc.). I built my CMM months ago and it had lots of problems. All of those problems were associated with HD 3000 Integrated Graphics. The Tuneup Kit addresses the HD3000 problems, specifically for users that want HD3000 HDMI audio.TreeMan2011 said:So I guess it depend on what's important to you and how much effort you are willing to spend on working around problems (and probably also on whether there will be a Customac Mini Tuneup Kit v4 that concentrates on fixing audio and video issues) but if you will not be satisfied by anything that does not work "perfectly" I'd pass on this for now.
You do not need to install the Tuneup Kit if you are building a CustoMac Mini with discrete graphics (with or without HDMI audio) or HD3000 integrated graphics without HDMI. More on this later.
For those interested in HD3000 integrated graphics with HDMI audio installing the Tuneup Kit is beneficial. This is the only place you can get turnkey HDMI audio in our DIY world. The current HDMI audio is very close to native with the sacrifice of other audio capabilities. The reason there is not a mic is that adding a mic breaks HDMI audio. For those applications that require HDMI audio, this is low cost, reasonable (not optimal) solution.
The CustoMac Mini is very desirable for most other applications. Full 889 on board audio, single and dual slot graphics with and without HDMI/DisplayPort audio, up to i7-2600K processing power and many other options and capabilities make this platform completely customizable from the low end to the high end in cost and performance. For those interested in HDMI/DP audio with discrete graphics cards , the dsdt in the Tuneup Kit includes the required edits. To uninstall Tuneup Kit audio, simply install the MultiBeast 889 audio solution or an 889 edited Lion AppleHDA.kext for full on board audio.
toleda, thank you for that explanation. I wish I'd known all that at the time we did the 10.7.2 upgrade. Right after we did the upgrade, HDMI video worked fine, the network worked fine, etc. and the ONLY thing that I am certain did not work was audio output (I didn't test input at that point) and that was what I was wanting to fix by installing the tuneup kit. Basically, I'm using a computer monitor with no sound capabilities (a HP 2311x to be exact) and then running the sound into a separate audio amplifier to feed speakers (same setup I've been using since probably the days of Windows '95). So I have absolutely no need for HDMI audio. May I suggest that you include a note about this in the -Read_Me_First file so that people who have no need for HDMI audio (in particular, those sending video to a computer monitor rather than a HDTV set) will know that they are actually going to lose audio input capabilities? People might want to be aware of that prior to installing.
You said, "To uninstall Tuneup Kit audio, simply install the MultiBeast 889 audio solution or an 889 edited Lion AppleHDA.kext for full on board audio." I'm looking at this image from the first post in this thread:
I'm assuming you mean to run MultiBeast and just check the ALC8xxHDA selection? Do I also need to check AppleHDA Rollback? Do I need to check any of the other boxes (that is, if something on the list is already installed and I leave the associated box unchecked, it won't remove what's already there, will it)?
I don't really understand what you mean by "an 889 edited Lion AppleHDA.kext" and don't know where I'd get one or how to install it, so that's why I'm asking how to do it using MultiBeast. If it would be easier to do it the other way then I'd need explicit instructions (I'm pretty new at this so I apologize if I'm asking about something obvious to most people here).
I really do appreciate what you are trying to do here and if I were trying to feed a TV set I'm sure my priorities would be quite different, but as I say I'm working with a plain HDMI monitor that has no built-in audio whatsoever.
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