Apple Introduces New MacBook Air and Mac Mini

[pastrychef]

Here, in wikipedia it doesn't say this way:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Mini

And if it is true, it says it uses: i3-8100H, i5-8500B and i7-8700B which all three are laptop ones, as you can see here too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake

And for me, it does make sense... or maybe I am wrong...

Wow. You're right. I didn't even know of the existence of an i7-8700B.

What doesn't make sense is that both the i7-8700 and i7-8700B are 65W TDP and both have the same clocks.

Can it be that the i7-8700B is just an i7-8700 without the IHS? Because as far as I can tell everything else is the same.

Edit:
Just found another difference. The i7-8700B uses BGA1440 while i7-8700 is LGA1151.

I think the difference is only in the package. Even the price of both are the same.

Source: https://cpubase.com/compare/intel-core-i7-8700-vs-intel-core-i7-8700b

 

[ed_co]

Wow. You're right. I didn't even know of the existence of an i7-8700B.

What doesn't make sense is that both the i7-8700 and i7-8700B are 65W TDP and both have the same clocks.

Can it be that the i7-8700B is just an i7-8700 without the IHS? Because as far as I can tell everything else is the same.

Edit:
Just found another difference. The i7-8700B uses BGA1440 while i7-8700 is LGA1151.

I think the difference is only in the package.

I think that should be more than that... desktop CPUs inside mobile systems?? I seriously doubt it... why even bother to have different sockets then... makes more sense then unify everything...
EDIT: mobile systems, not CPUs, I wanted to say...

 

[pastrychef]

I think that should be more than that... desktop cpus inside mobile cpus?? I seriously doubt it...

What do you mean desktop CPUs inside mobile CPUs?

Both are 65W. Both run at the same frequencies. IGPU run at same frequencies. Both cost the same.

Differences are in (1) BGA vs socked and (2) IHS vs no IHS.

https://cpubase.com/compare/intel-core-i7-8700-vs-intel-core-i7-8700b

 

[ed_co]

What do you mean desktop CPUs inside mobile CPUs?

Both are 65W. Both run at the same frequencies. IGPU run at same frequencies. Both cost the same.

Differences are in (1) BGA vs socked and (2) IHS vs no IHS.

https://cpubase.com/compare/intel-core-i7-8700-vs-intel-core-i7-8700b

Good to know... although I don't know if this is complete or not... not too many information in cpubase (maybe intel ark has more info)... apart of the obvious.
Should be great to know if mac mini uses h370 chipset... what do you think pastrychef?

 

[trs96]

A ball grid array (BGA) is a type of surface-mount packaging (a chip carrier) used for integrated circuits. BGA packages are used to permanently mount devices such as microprocessors.

 

[xmark]

Differences are in (1) BGA vs socked and (2) IHS vs no IHS.

Yes, I did this compare for my i5. The Intel site shows: https://ark.intel.com/compare/129939,134892

Same chip, one is lidless and mounted differently. Also some other diffs, not the guts of the cpu but some Intel "Advanced Technologies".

-- edit -- and Intel BootGuard not on the B mobile version.

 

[pastrychef]

Good to know... although I don't know if this is complete or not... not too many information in cpubase (maybe intel ark has more info)... apart of the obvious.
Should be great to know if mac mini uses h370 chipset... what do you think pastrychef?

I don't know which chipset is used in the Mac Mini. We should be able to figure that out as more users get their hands on them.

I'm waiting for Clover Configurator to add the SMBIOS info of the Mac Mini so that I can see if certain features work better, for example users who only use IGPU.

 

[WonkeyDonkey]

Well, I don't have the eGPU setup yet, but here's my 2018 Mac Mini Geekbench:View attachment 364153

Thanks! Would you care to share your ioreg so we can start to get an idea of what else they used in terms of hardware ?

 

[ed_co]

Yes, I did this compare for my i5. The Intel site shows: https://ark.intel.com/compare/129939,134892

Same chip, one is lidless and mounted differently. Also some other diffs, not the guts of the cpu but some Intel "Advanced Technologies".

-- edit -- and Intel BootGuard not on the B mobile version.

Nice to know...

I don't know which chipset is used in the Mac Mini. We should be able to figure that out as more users get their hands on them.

I'm waiting for Clover Configurator to add the SMBIOS info of the Mac Mini so that I can see if certain features work better, for example users who only use IGPU.

It sounds awesome!!
I think that the Asrock H370M-ITX/ac seems one of the best for a mac mini 2018 config (6 SATA, and not 4 as all the other brands in ITX with z/h370 generation).

 

[WonkeyDonkey]

Nice to know...
It sounds awesome!!
I think that the Asrock H370M-ITX/ac seems one of the best for a mac mini 2018 config (6 SATA, and not 4 as all the other brands in ITX with z/h370 generation).

That is the exact board I've been looking at too.