building a powerful video editing system - MAC PRO

Hi,
I would like to built a powerful and professional video editing system with a budget around 3000€ (including the screen)
I primarily use Adobe Premiere cc 2014 as my editing software

From browsing the forum and the site, I came up with this configuration

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Mother Board Gigabyte GA-X99-UD5 WIFI	1	284,99 €
Processor Intel Core i7 5820K	1	389,99 €
Graphic Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gaming WindForce 3X - 4 Go	1	609,90 €
RAM Corsair XMS3 8 x 8 Go DDR3 1333 MHz CAS 9	1	609,95 €
Power Corsair VS650 - 650W	1	62,99 €
Case NZXT H440 - Noir	1	128,89 €
Drive Crucial M550 - 1 To	1	449,99 €
Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H60	1	66,49 €
Screen Asus PB287Q	1	559,90 €

Do you guys think I will be able to set a hackintosh on this configuration? do you have any useful advice?

Thanks for your help
Jacob

I like your choices except for the ram modules. DDR3 will not work with an X99 system.
Pick your ram from those listed on this PDF.

View attachment mb_memory_ga-x99-ud5-wifi.pdf

I would go with one of the crucial or corsair 8GB DIMMS listed in the PDF.
Best to get two 4x8GB kits if you need 64GB of ram. The 4 X 16GB kits are
ECC ram for servers and may not work with your board. Here's an example
of a 32 GB kit you could use: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148861

Also if you ever want to go with 2 graphics cards then you'd need a bigger power supply
and the 6 core 5930K cpu for the extra 14 PCI-e lanes it provides.

I'm no pro but a few things for you to think through...

The X99 chipset isn't fully supported yet so you will have some (many) issues getting it all working...but some have got it working so don't be put off if you don't mind 'tweaking'. Current wisdom is suggesting that Apple will release an update to their line of CPU's at some point in the first half of this year. At which point things will become easier.

As already mentioned...you have to use DDR4, not DDR3. You will see this bump up your costs as the price difference is massive. Again...once others like Apple start to use the platform and more DDR4 is shipped...the price will come down.

The GTX980 is a great card but I've found that some of the video editing software is less than happy to use none-Quadro cards which are designed for offloading work. It can be done...I have some software that will use my 295 via Cuda..but not by default.

The 1TB SSD...good idea but you may also wish to consider another disk such as a hybrid disk (in addition to the SSD). It doesn't take long to gobble up that space with video and audio files.

You may wish to review the case selection. Don't get me wrong they are great cases...but...no 5.25" bays...so no DVD/Blueray drive. As your're creating videos...as some point someone will ask for a DVD so you will have to have an external writer.

As for the H60...umh...depends on how much you value the lack of noise. I would go for a 240mm setup to start with. I have a 240+360 but the temps are CPU:23oC GTX295:36oC...more importantly..'very' quiet. A 240mm setup will be a nice balance and shouldn't cost that much more. If you are going to buy an All-In-One (AIO) setup...read the reviews. Some of them make more noise than Air coolers.

Hope it helps,

Dz

dz0rpw said:

I'm no pro but a few things for you to think through...

The X99 chipset isn't fully supported yet so you will have some (many) issues getting it all working...but some have got it working so don't be put off if you don't mind 'tweaking'. Current wisdom is suggesting that Apple will release an update to their line of CPU's at some point in the first half of this year. At which point things will become easier.

Dz

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+1 on this point. X99 systems don't have support in OS X yet. If you're a first time socket 2011
builder plan on having someone with experience nearby that is willing to help you out. Do your
research ahead of time and learn all the new terminology. This is a significant investment of time
and money on your part. Yes, you can always run Windows and the Adobe apps on this but the
reason you're here is because you'd be much happier with OS X running on your hardware.

Thanks for your advices dz0rpw and trs96

I have plenty of hard drives (14To) and external blu-ray burner

dz0rpw said:

As for the H60...umh...depends on how much you value the lack of noise. I would go for a 240mm setup to start with. I have a 240+360 but the temps are CPU:23oC GTX295:36oC...more importantly..'very' quiet. A 240mm setup will be a nice balance and shouldn't cost that much more. If you are going to buy an All-In-One (AIO) setup...read the reviews. Some of them make more noise than Air coolers.
Dz

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Regarding the processor radiator, I don't quite get it, do you mean dual radiator?

trs96 said:

+1 on this point. X99 systems don't have support in OS X yet. If you're a first time socket 2011
builder plan on having someone with experience nearby that is willing to help you out. Do your
research ahead of time and learn all the new terminology. This is a significant investment of time
and money on your part. Yes, you can always run Windows and the Adobe apps on this but the
reason you're here is because you'd be much happier with OS X running on your hardware.

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The idea is to get new generation of mother board so don't need to update in a year or two, if I need to run windows for a few months that ok but I have good base to upgrades on.
Or is best to wait a few month before buying the gear, wait that motherboard have thunderbolt and more support etc ...
I will try to find a friend of friend to help me out to do install OSX.


Regarding the graphic card do you think it is better value for money a PNY Quadro 4000 for mac 2GB (price in France is 984€) vs Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB (609€)

Here the list updated

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Intel Core i7 5820K	1	389,99 €
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gaming WindForce 3X - 4 Go	1	609,90 €
NZXT H440 - Noir	1	127,99 €
Crucial M550 - 1 To	1	449,99 €
Asus PB287Q	1	559,90 €
G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Blue DDR4 4 x 8 Go 2666 MHz CAS 16	1	499,99 €
Gigabyte GA-X99-Gaming 7 WIFI	1	309,95 €
Corsair CS750M Series Modulaire - 750W	1	109,99 €
Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 3	1	79,99 €

thanks again for your help!
jacob

Regarding the processor radiator, I don't quite get it, do you mean dual radiator?

(Yes, I would suggest a 240mm with 2x120mm fans. This means you have plenty of cooling capacity rather than 'just enough' and the price difference is minimal)

The idea is to get new generation of mother board so don't need to update in a year or two, if I need to run windows for a few months that ok but I have good base to upgrades on.
Or is best to wait a few month before buying the gear, wait that motherboard have thunderbolt and more support etc ...

(The longer you wait, the lower the prices will be...but the choice is yours)

I will try to find a friend of friend to help me out to do install OSX.


Regarding the graphic card do you think it is better value for money a PNY Quadro 4000 for mac 2GB (price in France is 984€) vs Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB (609€)

(There is lots of information available where people have compared the performance of these cards. For 'work specific' tasks i.e. Video, 3D etc then the Quadro seems to be the best way (but they are more expensive). If you want a blend of games and 'some' acceleration for video etc...go for the GTX. )

Hello Yontan !

What a powerful build !
Are you sure motherboards with built-in Wifi interface are fully supported ?

I've read several times that an PCI-e card is required to have Wifi connection that works.
Maybe some "golden builders" will help on that.
Double check advised though !

PS : I created a topic yesterday, trying to build my hackintosh, do you mind passing by and share your knowledge ?

Guys,

Please don't take this the wrong way (I mean no disrespect) but if you guys are asking these sorts of questions I would recommend waiting until Apple has released a 2011v3 system which means very quickly this forum will find ways to 'easily' build the new systems or my advice would be to go for a 4790K (Z97) build and follow the Buyers guide.

The 4790K is a similar speed to the 5820K (all things considered) but a Z97 build is tried and tested and you will get lots of support getting it built. The X99 is just a bit early at this stage unless you 'really' know what you are doing. I've had a Hackintosh for a few years now and currently reviewing the option of X99...but I'm just not going to do it...it's just too much work (for now). I can speed the same amount of money on a 1st class Z97 and get a 4K monitor for the same money.

Regards,

Dz

thanks again

it is true it my first time setup Hackintosh you are right x99 will probably be real head heck for me.

here is alternative configuration Z97 and 4790K but with this config. you can't upgrade the RAM bellowed 32gb and I'm not sure if the "Thunderboth 2" works, it's bit cheaper, not much (around 300€) .
it nearly then same then misosoup7 config. that works 99% !!

But I think I might just wait bit more see if apple released a 2011v3 driver

cheers


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PRODUITS	QUANTITÉ	PRIX TTC
Intel Core i7 4790K	1	329,89 €
Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD7 TH	1	241,90 €
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gaming WindForce 3X - 4 Go	1	609,90 €
NZXT H440 - Noir	1	127,99 €
Crucial M550 - 1 To	1	449,99 €
Asus PB287Q	1	559,90 €
G.Skill Kit Extreme3 4 x 8 Go PC17000 Ripjaws Z CAS10	1	310,00 €
Corsair Hydro Series - H105	1	114,49 €
Corsair RM850 Modulaire - 850W	1	148,49 €
TOTAL TTC 2 892,55 € Prix TTC hors frais de port

I've built a video editing system around the Z97X, i4790K but using dual 280x cards as I use FCP X. As you are using Premiere your nVidia card will be fine.

The comments here are based on experience and I can agree with most (all?) of them. If you have never built a hackintosh before then the Z97X builds are a lot simpler and most of the time, unless you go way off-piste, you can get one working as most of the problems have been had before.

The advice I give to people is to sweat the important stuff and don't worry about the simple stuff, e.g. your choice of radiator is a decision to make, but in comparison to the choice of motherboard and GPU, its a trivial decision.

I have the Gigabyte Z97X UD5H Black and the 4790K and its a great combination. You MUST upgrade the bios though for the 4790K as you will get reboots after about five minutes unless you turn off Turboboost. That took me a day to find out Apart from that its a great board and seems to work very well for me.

I'd advise you to go for a larger case than you think and a larger PSU because if you do go dual graphics cards, you need lots of space to route power cables and you need lots of power to drive the cards.

I use a Deep Silence 5 case and its about the right size for twin GPU's, I also use a 1200W PSU as it has lots and lots of slots for power outlets and it barely breaks a sweat driving everything.

My personal view is that Thunderbolt is a waste of money unless you really, really need an Apple monitor. If you are that tied into Thunderbolt, you need to get a new Mac Pro as its commercially important to you. After saying that, I have just remembered that FCP X does not support writing (easily) to non-attached storage, so it may be worth checking on what Adobe Premiere allows you to use. I don't have it so have no idea. Also Thunderbolt requires more setting up and its not really there yet. Your mileage may vary as they say,

Rob.