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- Motherboard
- Gigabyte Z370 AUROS Gaming 7
- CPU
- Intel i5-8600
- Graphics
- onboard Intel UHD 630
So I went and picked up the new LG 34WK95U-W 34" 5k2k monitor this morning. I thought I would post this so people know what to expect if they want to upgrade to this monitor in the future.
With at least a Nvidia GeForce GTX10 series or a AMD Radeon RX460, you can use the DisplayPort 1.4 (HDMI 2.0b will not run it at full resolution, 2.0a and 2.0b will run HDR at 4K @ 60Hz though) to run the monitor at full 5120 x 2160 @ 60Hz.
But if you want to use onboard graphics, here's what you'll be limited to:
HDMI 1.4 will run at 4096 x 2160 @ 30Hz but recommended at 3440 x 1440 @ 60Hz
DisplayPort 1.2 is 4096 x 2160 (or 2304) @ 60hz but does not list the recommended resolution for DisplayPort 1.2. Manual specifically states that a DisplayPort to HDMI 2.0 adapter could cause problems.
DisplayPort 1.4 is 5120 x 2160 @ 60hz (but I don't know of any motherboards with DisplayPort 1.4 onboard yet).
USB-C is also 3440 x 1440 @ 60Hz (so if you thought you don't need Thunderbolt 3 because your new motherboard has the new USB 3.1 type-C, wrong).
Thunderbolt 3 will do 5120 x 2160 @ 60Hz (provided that it's Titan Ridge and the graphics driver can handle the resolution).
This is why you may want to look for a motherboard that has onboard Thunderbolt 3 (Titan Ridge) or a Thunderbolt 3 header to run the 5k2k monitors in the future. So far I see only Gigabyte has a Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 add-on card (supports resolutions up to 7680 x 3840 @ 60Hz with graphics card that does also). But I read that some may have gotten the Gigabyte Titan Ridge add-on Thunderbolt 3 card to work with other brands of motherboards that have a Thunderbolt 3 header. Alpine Ridge will be limited to the 4096 x 2304 @ 60Hz (but if connected through a HDMI 1.4 then it's (4096 x 2304 @ 24Hz or) 4096 x 2160 @ 30Hz it states, but it's not going to do 60Hz).
Also, you may want to make sure your new motherboard has HDMI 2.0 onboard if you want a HTPC type Hackintosh. Or your 4K will be limited to 30Hz with HDMI 1.4, instead of the UHD 4K blu-ray standard of 60Hz. There's not many motherboards that have HDMI 2.0 onboard so you can have it connected via HDMI to your 4K TV. This is why I'm looking forward to see how the new release of Mohave will do with the new 8th and/or 9th gen. Intel chipsets on the new Mac Minis. Right now the ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac has HDMI 2.0 and Thunderbolt 3 (hoping someone can verify it's Titan Ridge onboard).
If you're looking for a full size ATX board, the only one I've seen that follows these specs. is the Asus WS Z390 Pro at $400 with HDMI 2.0 onboard and a Thunderbold 3 header and you'll still need the Thunderbolt 3 add-on card (and the Asus one is still Alpine Ridge). I really don't understand why Gigabyte would come out without a Z390 motherboard that has HDMI 2.0 and a Thunderbolt 3 header for their Titan Ridge add-on card? The Gigabyte Z390 Designare ($270, out 11/08) would have been perfect as it has Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 onboard, but only a HDMI 1.4 port (if HDMI 2.0 is not important to you, this is probably a ATX motherboard you will want to consider, especially for the price).
I know people are going to chime in saying I have my AMD or Nvidia card so who cares. Well, read the subject line again, this is for those wanting to use onboard Intel UHD 630 graphics. But now the kicker, the max. resolution for onboard Intel UHD 630 is 4096 x 2160 (or 2304) @ 60Hz, so you will not be able to run this monitor at full 5120 x 2160 @ 60Hz even with a Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 port. Those that want to use the new UHD 4K blu-ray drives and blu-ray discs that will not work with Nvidia or AMD graphics cards due to lack of SGX, can only use the Intel UHD 630. (I'm hoping that I can run 4096 x 2160 @ 60Hz on this monitor native so there's black bars on each side until there's some fix in the future.)
This makes me wonder how the new (8th gen. Intel) Mac Minis that use the UHD 630 run the 5k2k monitors? The specs. state that they can run one 5120 x 2880 @ 60Hz monitor via Thunderbolt 3 and a 4096 x 2160 @ 60Hz monitor via HDMI 2.0. If we can figure out how Apple is able to get Intel's UHD 630 to do the above resolutions via Thunderbolt 3 (which has to be Titan Ridge to do that resolution or has to be custom, which I doubt they would do while using Intel CPU, chipset, graphics, etc.), even though Intel won't allow that resolution with their own UHD 630 graphics, then we could probably solve some of the UHD 630 compatibility problems.
With at least a Nvidia GeForce GTX10 series or a AMD Radeon RX460, you can use the DisplayPort 1.4 (HDMI 2.0b will not run it at full resolution, 2.0a and 2.0b will run HDR at 4K @ 60Hz though) to run the monitor at full 5120 x 2160 @ 60Hz.
But if you want to use onboard graphics, here's what you'll be limited to:
HDMI 1.4 will run at 4096 x 2160 @ 30Hz but recommended at 3440 x 1440 @ 60Hz
DisplayPort 1.2 is 4096 x 2160 (or 2304) @ 60hz but does not list the recommended resolution for DisplayPort 1.2. Manual specifically states that a DisplayPort to HDMI 2.0 adapter could cause problems.
DisplayPort 1.4 is 5120 x 2160 @ 60hz (but I don't know of any motherboards with DisplayPort 1.4 onboard yet).
USB-C is also 3440 x 1440 @ 60Hz (so if you thought you don't need Thunderbolt 3 because your new motherboard has the new USB 3.1 type-C, wrong).
Thunderbolt 3 will do 5120 x 2160 @ 60Hz (provided that it's Titan Ridge and the graphics driver can handle the resolution).
This is why you may want to look for a motherboard that has onboard Thunderbolt 3 (Titan Ridge) or a Thunderbolt 3 header to run the 5k2k monitors in the future. So far I see only Gigabyte has a Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 add-on card (supports resolutions up to 7680 x 3840 @ 60Hz with graphics card that does also). But I read that some may have gotten the Gigabyte Titan Ridge add-on Thunderbolt 3 card to work with other brands of motherboards that have a Thunderbolt 3 header. Alpine Ridge will be limited to the 4096 x 2304 @ 60Hz (but if connected through a HDMI 1.4 then it's (4096 x 2304 @ 24Hz or) 4096 x 2160 @ 30Hz it states, but it's not going to do 60Hz).
Also, you may want to make sure your new motherboard has HDMI 2.0 onboard if you want a HTPC type Hackintosh. Or your 4K will be limited to 30Hz with HDMI 1.4, instead of the UHD 4K blu-ray standard of 60Hz. There's not many motherboards that have HDMI 2.0 onboard so you can have it connected via HDMI to your 4K TV. This is why I'm looking forward to see how the new release of Mohave will do with the new 8th and/or 9th gen. Intel chipsets on the new Mac Minis. Right now the ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac has HDMI 2.0 and Thunderbolt 3 (hoping someone can verify it's Titan Ridge onboard).
If you're looking for a full size ATX board, the only one I've seen that follows these specs. is the Asus WS Z390 Pro at $400 with HDMI 2.0 onboard and a Thunderbold 3 header and you'll still need the Thunderbolt 3 add-on card (and the Asus one is still Alpine Ridge). I really don't understand why Gigabyte would come out without a Z390 motherboard that has HDMI 2.0 and a Thunderbolt 3 header for their Titan Ridge add-on card? The Gigabyte Z390 Designare ($270, out 11/08) would have been perfect as it has Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 onboard, but only a HDMI 1.4 port (if HDMI 2.0 is not important to you, this is probably a ATX motherboard you will want to consider, especially for the price).
I know people are going to chime in saying I have my AMD or Nvidia card so who cares. Well, read the subject line again, this is for those wanting to use onboard Intel UHD 630 graphics. But now the kicker, the max. resolution for onboard Intel UHD 630 is 4096 x 2160 (or 2304) @ 60Hz, so you will not be able to run this monitor at full 5120 x 2160 @ 60Hz even with a Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 port. Those that want to use the new UHD 4K blu-ray drives and blu-ray discs that will not work with Nvidia or AMD graphics cards due to lack of SGX, can only use the Intel UHD 630. (I'm hoping that I can run 4096 x 2160 @ 60Hz on this monitor native so there's black bars on each side until there's some fix in the future.)
This makes me wonder how the new (8th gen. Intel) Mac Minis that use the UHD 630 run the 5k2k monitors? The specs. state that they can run one 5120 x 2880 @ 60Hz monitor via Thunderbolt 3 and a 4096 x 2160 @ 60Hz monitor via HDMI 2.0. If we can figure out how Apple is able to get Intel's UHD 630 to do the above resolutions via Thunderbolt 3 (which has to be Titan Ridge to do that resolution or has to be custom, which I doubt they would do while using Intel CPU, chipset, graphics, etc.), even though Intel won't allow that resolution with their own UHD 630 graphics, then we could probably solve some of the UHD 630 compatibility problems.
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