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[Success] GIGABYTE Z370 Gaming 7 + Intel Core i7-8700K + RX 580 + (2x) Dell P2715Q 4k @ 60Hz

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What is most impressive to me, other than the really beautiful look of the Silver Phanteks case (with Apple Logo) is the OpenCL score on your Coffee Lake system compared to the upgraded older 5,1 Mac Pro. Over 130,00 points compared to just under 17,000 for the 5,1 system. When you look at the cost today of buying a used 5,1 Mac Pro, it makes the choice of which way to go very easy, especially if you edit video in FCP X. The speed of the NVME drive doesn't hurt either. The 4K video export times are also greatly improved when using AMD graphics as opposed to Nvidia. The RX580 8GB sells for about USD 350 today. The RX480 is a slightly older version of the same card. We all know how expensive the 1080 Ti is today.

You know, I honestly had no idea the AMD cards performed better when exporting video in FCP X. That really is interesting.

I merely selected the RX580 because of the native support in High Sierra and that would be one less thing to worry about tinkering with with the Nvidia drivers, etc. No clue even the older RX480 outperformed the 1080 Ti. Great info, and thanks for sharing.
 

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You know, I honestly had no idea the AMD cards performed better when exporting video in FCP X. That really is interesting.

I merely selected the RX580 because of the native support in High Sierra and that would be one less thing to worry about tinkering with with the Nvidia drivers, etc. No clue even the older RX480 outperformed the 1080 Ti. Great info, and thanks for sharing.
The testing of these two cards was "real world" testing by Jeff Benjamin of 9 to 5 Mac. He swapped out his 1080 Ti from his hackintosh build and exported the exact same 4K video and was amazed at the results. There are of course other areas where a 1080 Ti will perform better than a RX580 but for anyone who is exporting large 4 or 5K video files from FCP that is a major advantage for AMD. The following video is 1 year old now so the problems he mentions later on in the video with macOS and the RX480 are no longer relevant. 10.13.4 gives full OOB support to the Sapphire Pulse RX 580.

 
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Wow, I just cruised into this site because I was about to embark on my first build and I saw a build on youtube and was thinking about making it to replace my Mac 5,1 but now I have seen this sexy bastard I absolutely HAVE to have it instead. You make better Macs than Apple bro. Your instructions are excellent too - any reason why I shouldn't make this as my first hackintosh? (I probably gonna do it anyway ;-)

How the performance of this compare to the Mac Pro 6 core?
 
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Wow, I just cruised into this site because I was about to embark on my first build and I saw a build on youtube and was thinking about making it to replace my Mac 5,1 but now I have seen this sexy bastard I absolutely HAVE to have it instead. You make better Macs than Apple bro. Your instructions are excellent too - any reason why I shouldn't make this as my first hackintosh? (I probably gonna do it anyway ;-)
Thank you for your kind words, and I was just taking the lead from @trs96 and his HP 8300 guide which was so well written, even a dope like me could follow along nicely. :) I tried to do the same with this guide with a step-by-step of exactly the process for those like me who want a replacement to their Mac 5,1. I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be a first build, especially if you too want a suitable replacement to the Mac Pro 5,1.

Wow, I just cruised into this site because I was about to embark on my first build and I saw a build on youtube and was thinking about making it to replace my Mac 5,1 but now I have seen this sexy bastard I absolutely HAVE to have it instead. You make better Macs than Apple bro. Your instructions are excellent too - any reason why I shouldn't make this as my first hackintosh? (I probably gonna do it anyway ;-)

How the performance of this compare to the Mac Pro 6 core?
The performance of this machine is night and day. I also was going from dual 1920x1080 displays to now dual 4k displays.
Just the text of "retina" displays is shockingly clear, and I live and breathe in Lightroom, so this clarity and detail is jaw dropping. Playback of you tube videos at the highest resolution possible is pristine with no "stutter" or frame drop outs that I would occasionally see with my old Mac Pro 5,1, etc.

Sometimes I'm coping over files from one drive to another, and it's about 2-3 GB, and it copies over so fast I think something wasn't right. It's pretty awesome. :)
 
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Thank you for your kind words, and I was just taking the lead from @trs96 and his HP 8300 guide which was so well written, even a dope like me could follow along nicely. :) I tried to do the same with this guide with a step-by-step of exactly the process for those like me who want a replacement to their Mac 5,1. I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be a first build, especially if you too want a suitable replacement to the Mac Pro 5,1.


The performance of this machine is night and day. I also was going from dual 1920x1080 displays to now dual 4k displays.
Just the text of "retina" displays is shockingly clear, and I live and breathe in Lightroom, so this clarity and detail is jaw dropping. Playback of you tube videos at the highest resolution possible is pristine with no "stutter" or frame drop outs that I would occasionally see with my old Mac Pro 5,1, etc.

Sometimes I'm coping over files from one drive to another, and it's about 2-3 GB, and it copies over so fast I think something wasn't right. It's pretty awesome. :)
Well, having looked at builds for a short while I am going to very largely follow your build as it's still pretty much spot on with what I want - or rather what I didn't realise I wanted until I saw it LOL.

The Phanteks case I have already ordered as its second to none - I considered the tempered glass version but, while it's certainly more bling, it really loses something of the retro mac cool styling. I'm probably going to go with the Aorus gaming 5 MB as I dont see I need the extra features of the Gaming 7 unless I am missing something crucial and the price difference here in the UK is about $100.

I get the vibe that you were slightly dissapointed in having chosen a CPU fan that blocks your ram slots - I'd rather avoid that. Could you recommend an alternative fan that might fit better (knowing the case space restrictions as you now do)? I like the corsair hydro fans like the H60 as they have a very small form on the CPU but I wonder if that will cool an overclocked CPU (i7-8700k) enough - despite being a coder and designer for 20 years I suddenly realise that I know bugger all about hardware :) I read somewhere that liquid cooling isn't enough for the i7-8700k and found one other build where guy had used the same Mobo and CPU with a Cryorig H7. I'd appreciate any ideas you might have on cpu fan.

Did you add any other fans to the case BTW?

One last thing, you said the build took only about 3 hours - that bag of sour patch kids was 3.5lbs, that's over a pound an hour. Could this be overclocked if necessary or is that maxed out?
 
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wow, this is scary close to my build I just did, minus a few minor differences. Did you use your thermistors? I'm not sure wether I need to or not.
 
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Well, having looked at builds for a short while I am going to very largely follow your build as it's still pretty much spot on with what I want - or rather what I didn't realise I wanted until I saw it LOL.

The Phanteks case I have already ordered as its second to none - I considered the tempered glass version but, while it's certainly more bling, it really loses something of the retro mac cool styling. I'm probably going to go with the Aorus gaming 5 MB as I dont see I need the extra features of the Gaming 7 unless I am missing something crucial and the price difference here in the UK is about $100.
Hey, glad the build info might help you. For me personally, I only noticed that the Gaming 5 includes WiFi and the Gaming 7 does not. I wasn't sure if the WiFi onboard would somehow cause issues/complications with the hackintosh portion of the build, and the price difference was +$50 so I just went with the Gaming 7. If there are builds out there that work great with the Gaming 5, then I think you can assume it would work without issues, but I don't have personal experience with the gaming 5, only the gaming 7.

I get the vibe that you were slightly dissapointed in having chosen a CPU fan that blocks your ram slots - I'd rather avoid that. Could you recommend an alternative fan that might fit better (knowing the case space restrictions as you now do)? I like the corsair hydro fans like the H60 as they have a very small form on the CPU but I wonder if that will cool an overclocked CPU (i7-8700k) enough - despite being a coder and designer for 20 years I suddenly realise that I know bugger all about hardware :) I read somewhere that liquid cooling isn't enough for the i7-8700k and found one other build where guy had used the same Mobo and CPU with a Cryorig H7. I'd appreciate any ideas you might have on cpu fan.
I was more disappointed about the install of the fan itself. It's a pain to install. Then again, I hear "liquid cooling" and my mind races back to those days of Mac towers with blue goo leaking inside the machine and ruining everything. I wanted to idiot proof this machine (from myself) so I went air cooled. I did some research on fans, and this fan is really quiet, works perfectly. It's just the install that wasn't ideal. So yes, I think it isn't great that the cooling fan is so large that it's blocking the RAM slots, if I had to do it all over again, I would still buy this fan. Mainly because the operation is flawless (thus far), it's really quiet, and that's the most important thing. And even if the install is a pain, I have a feeling if I have to remove it, it will get easier the second time (it will still be a pain though.)

Did you add any other fans to the case BTW?
No added fans. The case itself comes with five (I think?) built in, and they're moving air really nicely out of the case. They're quiet too. I also noticed that previous photos I saw online of this case had the fans as white plastic fans inside. They were ugly. I guess Phanteks made a change, because my internal case fans are black and look great.

One last thing, you said the build took only about 3 hours - that bag of sour patch kids was 3.5lbs, that's over a pound an hour. Could this be overclocked if necessary or is that maxed out?
Ha! I was more on a "single sour-patch per minute" pace for this build. So approximately 180 of these little guys were sacrificed for this build. I'll miss you most of all blue ones. :)
 
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wow, this is scary close to my build I just did, minus a few minor differences. Did you use your thermistors? I'm not sure wether I need to or not.
I will answer first by saying I did not use thermistors.

I will follow that up by saying, I honestly don't even know what a thermistor is. Seriously. :)
As you can tell, I'm not the most experience hackintosh builder here, this is my first true ground up build after only getting my feet wet with the HP 8300 CustoMacs. :D
 
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I will answer first by saying I did not use thermistors.

I will follow that up by saying, I honestly don't even know what a thermistor is. Seriously. :)
As you can tell, I'm not the most experience hackintosh builder here, this is my first true ground up build after only getting my feet wet with the HP 8300 CustoMacs. :D
This is my first pc/hackintosh build ever, I have done a bit of googling on thermistors and was deciding against them since it just clutters up my case more and I've heard you can get more accurate temps with software.

Other than that my computer is ready to boot up, I plan on running windows 10 on one of my m2's and OSX on the other. Just trying to research and find out more info.
 
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This is my first pc/hackintosh build ever, I have done a bit of googling on thermistors and was deciding against them since it just clutters up my case more and I've heard you can get more accurate temps with software.

Other than that my computer is ready to boot up, I plan on running windows 10 on one of my m2's and OSX on the other. Just trying to research and find out more info.
Gotcha. Makes sense to do as much research as possible.

Just for reference, I only have one m2 drive (macOS High Sierra) in the middle slot, and Windows 10 off a SATA SSD. An additional m2 drive will block a lane shared by SATA ports, and these are covered in Page 33 of the Z370 Aorus Gaming 7 Manual. If you don't have more than 4-5 SATA drives needed on top of the two m2 drives, then you're good.

Also, one thing I've found in my setup is related to audio and MacOS and Windows. Well, I have my speakers connected via the line out I highlighted in my manual. For Windows, it uses a different line out port. So rather than unplugging the speakers each time I boot up into the other OS, I'm going to get a "Y" splitter cable and test it out. It's on order, and I'l update the manual as needed for those who create a dual-boot system of Mac and Windows.
 
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