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Broadcom WiFi and Bluetooth Module -- BCM94360CS2 working with ipxe? thx
 
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I am in the same boat. Mac Studio upgrade: 4k. Z690/DDR5/I7 13700: 1k(reusing most of my current z390 setup)

But I need TB to work(for audiointerfaces and storage, network not so important), 10 GbE, 1 GbE x 2, WIFI, UAD Quad PCIe card. Lack of PCIe slots/lanes in Z690 and Z790 mobo's.

Not sure about the fast and slow cores of Alder Lake and Raptor Lake and DAW use. Might mean a project works one day, not the other.
How many tracks do you want (ideally) to work in your DAW? Mac Studio (10 core CPU and 32 core GPU) did 181 while my i9 9900k did 158 with the same test. The 13000 series is going to beat the Mac Studio by far for track count.
 
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How many tracks do you want (ideally) to work in your DAW? Mac Studio (10 core CPU and 32 core GPU) did 181 while my i9 9900k did 158 with the same test. The 13000 series is going to beat the Mac Studio by far for track count.
I am not so much looking for better track count but I would appreciate better real-time performance. On my Z390 real heavy VSTi's + FX will overload the real-time core, especially at a 64 sample buffer. 1 core will spike, the rest is fine, so I'm looking for better single core performance. I get 1258 now in Geekbench 5. Over 2000(13th gen) should help a lot.

It would be lovely if I could leave my hardware buffer @ 64 samples at all times. Switching back and forth between the recording (64) and mixing (256) stage is a bit of a nuisance.
 
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Not sure why you want three Ethernet interfaces where one should be enough…

10 GbE for NAS, 1 GbE for general networking, 1 GbE for my audio interface. Broadcom USB 2.5 GbE adapters work fine.
Asus Z690 ProArt Creator has pretty much everything onboard if you can do with cold-plug TB (MapleRidge) and "storage" is NOT a Thunderbolt DAS.

DAS is fine. This works? No problems with sleep?

If not, your requirements boil down to:
- one x4 slot for TB;
- one x4-x8 slot for 10 GbE if not onboard;
- one x1 slot for the UAD.
This does not look so hard to find. In the worst case, you may use an adapter to get an extra PCIe slot from a M.2 slot, which are plenty on modern motherboards.
Plus GPU. So, 1 slot short for most mobo's.

Didn't know about m2 to PCIe adapters... Indeed, 3 x M2 will be enough.
It it THAT dramatic? I've yet to read a report of actual performance issues from the hybrid architecture in actual workload, as opposed to theoretical concerns.
And if so, it is still possible to go for a CPU without E cores, or to disable E cores in BIOS (in which case Raptor Lake is not the best choice).
Yes, I will probably switch off the e-cores.

At some point, with Pro Tools HD as a DAW(expensive pro system with DSP boards) it was possible that one would run into trouble because of (DSP) reshuffle of plug-ins after closing/opening a project. Not all the DSP chips had the same amount of RAM, so when code that needed lots of RAM was scheduled on a chip that hadn't enough you got errors.
 
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10 GbE for NAS, 1 GbE for general networking, 1 GbE for my audio interface. Broadcom USB 2.5 GbE adapters work fine.
Not being in audio at all, the concept of Ethernet-based audio interfaces looks weird beyond belief… So, let's keep one interface for that. Why not put the NAS on "general" 10 GbE networking? There are relatively inexpensive 10 GbE switches such as the QNAP QWS-M408 series or Mikrotik CRS-305-1G-4S+IN / CRS-309-1G-8S+IN — and these are managed switches, so if the concern is to keep the NAS totally off the Internet for safety this can be done.

DAS is fine. This works? No problems with sleep?
Thunderbolt DAS is NOT fine. These are typically hidden NAS serving a single client through Thunderbolt networking; so would require Thunderbolt bus on the client side, and that's only going to be a bag of hurt (doesn't work on Maple Ridge, save for Asus boards using Big Sur; Gigabyte is currently busy removing BIOS support for Titan Ridge).

Plus GPU. So, 1 slot short for most mobo's.
The GPU accounts for itself. Assuming that WiFi is taken care of from a M.2 2230 module, my search for socket 1700 motherboards with at least two x4 slots and at least one x1 slot yields 14 results, mostly from Asus Prime range.
Most actually have PCIe 4.0 x4 (in x16 slot, 10 GbE NIC… may well be a card with two interfaces), PCIe 3.0 x4 (GC-TitanRidge AIC) and two PCIe 3.0 x1, which is one too many (or allows for a Fenvi WiFi/BT card).
That's not too bad for a very specific set of requirements. For boards which are just one slot short, converting a M.2 slot would do.

Didn't know about m2 to pcie adapters... Indeed, 3 x M2 will be enough.
Look into ADT-Link R41/R42/R43 series once you have settled on a board and case… Their flat ribbon cables do not bend easily (they are designed NOT to be bent sharply), so you need to think carefully about cable routing and get just the right length (certainly no less but much preferably not much more!) with the right geometry.

Another option would be Zen4, with the potentially insane amount of I/O from X670 chipsets (actually, even B650 may do). But this first requires validating that your audio software does work properly on a "Ryzentosh" now that AVX-512 is supported.
 
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Hi everyone.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but what do you think about this news ?

Looks like Samsung fix is not a complete fix.
 

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Hi everyone.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but what do you think about this news ?

Looks like Samsung fix is not a complete fix.
I stopped using Samsung SSDs for macOS a while back when the TRIM issues started happening. I still have a couple 980 Pros running Windows 10 or 11 without issue although to be fair I don't boot that OS very often. If I understand the news regarding the 990 Pros, they are still going to be issuing a firmware update this month to address the heath degradation issues. The 980 Pros firmware has already been updated.
 

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what do you think about this news ?
It makes no sense to buy a 990 Pro for use with any OS. It costs $110 more (2TB version) than the SN850X. That WD Black NVMe has a large DRam cache, is just as fast and durable as the Samsung. It has no firmware issues. What reason would anyone have to choose the 990 Pro ?

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I would even opt for the SN770 2TB before a Samsung NVMe. It's really the best value available today. It sells for a lower price because it has no DRam. As a boot drive it's fine, just use the SN850X as a scratch drive instead of a 770.

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It makes no sense to buy a 990 Pro for use with any OS. It costs $110 more (2TB version) than the SN850X. That WD Black NVMe has a large DRam cache, is just as fast and durable as the Samsung. It has no firmware issues. What reason would anyone have to choose the 990 Pro ?

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I would even opt for the SN770 2TB before a Samsung NVMe. It's really the best value available today. It sells for a lower price because it has no DRam. As a boot drive it's fine, just use the SN850X as a scratch drive instead of a 770.

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Want to laugh a little ?
Check the price of the 2tb sn850x from my local dealer.
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