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[SUCCESS] Gigabyte Designare Z390 (Thunderbolt 3) + i7-9700K + AMD RX 580

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Perfectly normal. Unless we flash the Thunderbolt firmware with an external CH341a SPI ROM reader/writer, this will always say “No drivers are loaded”. Simply ignore that. Connect a Thunderbolt device and see if it actually works.
Hi @CaseySJ. Is this the reason why my Thunderbolt 3 ports recognize any USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 devices on Mac OS and also on Windows and on BIOS? If so, how I can change from Thunderbolt 3 to USB recognition mode? Because I need usb 3.0 devices to be recognized on Thunderbolt 3 ports more than Thunderbolt devices. If need to choose I prefer usb device recognition over Thunderbolt devices.
 
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@synnys , were you able to solve your problem with MOTU drivers not loading for your audio interface in Big Sur?

I am upgrading from Catalina to Monterey and have the same problem.

Many thanks for any help.
For those having the same problem in the future: I have been able to run MOTU 16A over a not flashed Titan Ridge thunderbolt PCIe card in Monterey 12.4, disabling SIP and enabling Apple VTD (Opencore 0.8.1)

I attach a copy of my config.plist (SMBIOS data removed), perhaps it will help somebody.

Many thanks @CaseySJ and @synnys !!
 

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Hi @CaseySJ. Is this the reason why my Thunderbolt 3 ports recognize any USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 devices on Mac OS and also on Windows and on BIOS?
Do you mean to say that your Thunderbolt 3 ports do not recognize USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 devices? Some comments:
  • We should use BIOS F9g or F9i
  • We should avoid BIOS F9j and F9
  • USB 2.0 devices have intentionally been disabled from the two Thunderbolt 3 ports in order to maintain 15 port limit in macOS
  • USB 3.0 devices should connect and work without any problem on both Thunderbolt 3 ports (but do not use BIOS F9j or F9)
 
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Do you mean to say that your Thunderbolt 3 ports do not recognize USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 devices? Some comments:
  • We should use BIOS F9g or F9i
  • We should avoid BIOS F9j and F9
  • USB 2.0 devices have intentionally been disabled from the two Thunderbolt 3 ports in order to maintain 15 port limit in macOS
  • USB 3.0 devices should connect and work without any problem on both Thunderbolt 3 ports (but do not use BIOS F9j or F9)
Hi @CaseySJ. I was F9 before I decided to go with Mac OS. So it is not possible to revert it as you know. My problem is not Mac OS specific and I don't care USB 2.0 too much. But I really need USB 3.0, USB 3.1, USB 3.2 Type C devices to work on Thunderbolt 3 port (To boot from an external drive on Mac OS, to use as extra storage on windows). I set "Thunderbolt Usb Support" as enabled on BIOS but either in BIOS or in Windows-Mac OS it just does not work. I can't use my type C external drives anywhere if they are connected on Thunderbolt ports.

Do you know the reason and the solution? How could Gigabyte kill USB support on Thunderbolt 3 ports with BIOS update? If the reason is just the BIOS update, it is unacceptable if GIGABYTE limited the Thunderbolt ports to be used by only Thunderbolt devices.
 
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Hi @CaseySJ. I was F9 before I decided to go with Mac OS. So it is not possible to revert it as you know. My problem is not Mac OS specific and I don't care USB 2.0 too much. But I really need USB 3.0, USB 3.1, USB 3.2 Type C devices to work on Thunderbolt 3 port (To boot from an external drive on Mac OS, to use as extra storage on windows). I set "Thunderbolt Usb Support" as enabled on BIOS but either in BIOS or in Windows-Mac OS it just does not work. I can't use my type C external drives anywhere if they are connected on Thunderbolt ports.

Do you know the reason and the solution? How could Gigabyte kill USB support on Thunderbolt 3 ports with BIOS update? If the reason is just the BIOS update, it is unacceptable if GIGABYTE limited the Thunderbolt ports to be used by only Thunderbolt devices.
I think there is a way to downgrade capsule BIOS but I think it’s not simple. Anyone?

As for a possible reason: a bug in the latest firmware revisions?
 

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Hi @CaseySJ. I was F9 before I decided to go with Mac OS. So it is not possible to revert it as you know. My problem is not Mac OS specific and I don't care USB 2.0 too much. But I really need USB 3.0, USB 3.1, USB 3.2 Type C devices to work on Thunderbolt 3 port (To boot from an external drive on Mac OS, to use as extra storage on windows). I set "Thunderbolt Usb Support" as enabled on BIOS but either in BIOS or in Windows-Mac OS it just does not work. I can't use my type C external drives anywhere if they are connected on Thunderbolt ports.

Do you know the reason and the solution? How could Gigabyte kill USB support on Thunderbolt 3 ports with BIOS update? If the reason is just the BIOS update, it is unacceptable if GIGABYTE limited the Thunderbolt ports to be used by only Thunderbolt devices.
Please see the spoiler labeled Quick Reference to Mini-Guides and Micro-Guides at the top of Post 1. In Section 7, the first sub-bullet is a link to the BIOS downgrade procedure.
 
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Please see the spoiler labeled Quick Reference to Mini-Guides and Micro-Guides at the top of Post 1. In Section 7, the first sub-bullet is a link to the BIOS downgrade procedure.
FYI- I just updated the original link, seems like the site changed formatting so it got buried.
 

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HackinDROM feature request: When creating or updating an EFI, the ResetNVRAM tool is restored.
This requires a structural change to the EFI folder. When OC 0.8.2 is released I’ll post a new EFI folder that includes this change in addition to ToggleSipEntry.efi. After that, HackinDROM will be able to preserve that change.
 
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Hello @phrfpeixoto,

Because you're on Big Sur and OpenCore, you are in a good position. The process is:
  • Make a full bootable backup of Big Sur (including the EFI partition). Trust me, you don't want to skip this step!
  • Then upgrade to OpenCore 0.7.8 or newer.
  • Finally perform an in-place upgrade from Big Sur to Monterey from System Preferences --> Software Update.
Hi @CaseySJ Was just going to ask this very same thing. However, one caveat, if I want to change out my SSD to avoid the TRIM issue I will have with my Samsung 970's, what process to you recommend to migrate to new NMV? Restore using Carbon Copy Cloner? Thanks!
 
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