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[SUCCESS] Gigabyte Designare Z390 (Thunderbolt 3) + i7-9700K + AMD RX 580

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... That way you will cut significant time during export.

Thank you for your long and detailed reply, but this is not in accordance with my findings. I did a simple test, I compared a DR project (with H264, HEVC, and even DNG timelapses) with iMacPro without iGPU and iMac19,1 with iGPU. The export time on iMacPro1,1 was ~18 minutes, on iMac19,1 it was ~24 minutes. Furthermore, DR shows you the export fps, on iMP I got ~55 fps, on iM19,1 I got 30-40. Maybe this is because I didn't put the iGPU in headless mode correctly (I just left my monitor connected to the VEGA). But this is some real life experience that might be worth sharing. I'm up for more testing to further sort this out, because DR performance is the main objective for my build.
 
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Thank you for your long and detailed reply, but this is not in accordance with my findings. I did a simple test, I compared a DR project (with H264, HEVC, and even DNG timelapses) with iMacPro without iGPU and iMac19,1 with iGPU. The export time on iMacPro1,1 was ~18 minutes, on iMac19,1 it was ~24 minutes. Furthermore, DR shows you the export fps, on iMP I got ~55 fps, on iM19,1 I got 30-40. Maybe this is because I didn't put the iGPU in headless mode correctly (I just left my monitor connected to the VEGA). But this is some real life experience that might be worth sharing. I'm up for more testing to further sort this out, because DR performance is the main objective for my build.
If your IGPU is not set as headless, your encoding will turn to CPU. Do me a favor and download this ProRes 422 file https://downloads.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera/originals/Nature.zip and export it to H.264 using your iMacPro SMBIOS with IGPU disabled. I have a similar spec machine (9900K, VII) and will do one using headless iGPU. This should give us a good comparison between the two. Do one without pre-rendering (background render off), then do one with bg render on and wait till it finishes. This will give us the pure encoding speed.
 
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This will give us the pure encoding speed.
I made a new project, 4K60, on DR 16.2.3, exporting only the .mov to MP4 H264, using 'use hardware acceleration if available', with 'automatic' quality. It took 35 seconds. I'm on 64GB RAM, iMacPro1,1, iGPU disabled in BIOS.

Really interested to see if there's any difference, @verendus!
 
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I made a new project, 4K60, on DR 16.2.3, exporting only the .mov to MP4 H264, using 'use hardware acceleration if available', with 'automatic' quality. It took 35 seconds. I'm on 64GB RAM, iMacPro1,1, iGPU disabled in BIOS.

Really interested to see if there's any difference, @verendus!
@hylkepylke Do you have the Frontier Edition? I have the gold FE edition which I snagged on eBay at good price else I may have opted for something else. I have also toyed with the headless option and wondered which is best to do iMac19 ,1 vs iMacPro1,1?
 
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I'm not sure it'll help, sadly - I'm running OC, and Native Access is working fine (and I don't have to reauthorise every boot), which might point to it being something else with your system. Sorry not to be more helpful
Interesting, thank you. I wonder if I'm using the wrong Model Identifier? I had originally been on macOS 10.13.6 as I used to use an Nvidia GPU, but since updated to 10.15.3 and added an RX580. I did however, keep the old Model Identifier of iMac 18,3. Do you think that updating to iMac 19,1 might help?
 

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on which side is the red box because I can't press it is just a photo?
Go to Post #1, open the spoiler marked "Thunderbolt Local Node and Thunderbolt Bus Investigation". You'll find the red box item there.
 
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** Designare Z390 Thunderbolt ROM has been Captured **
@S1lla @App32312 @2DSM

Using flashrom we now have the Designare Z390 Thunderbolt ROM attached here! Thanks to @S1lla for suggesting the use of this utility -- from macOS itself!

Version of ROM: TPS65983 HW FW0001.38.04 ZTBT1 ROM version is 33.

Update: The SOIC8 clip I'm using is not well suited for this task because of its physical bulk which interferes with a tiny resistor or two near one of the pins on the Winbond chip. Hopefully the Pomona 5250 will be a better fit. It took multiple tries and fine-adjustments of the clip before the ROM could be read. Here's a partial output from Terminal.
Spoiler: flashrom output

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Interesting, thank you. I wonder if I'm using the wrong Model Identifier? I had originally been on macOS 10.13.6 as I used to use an Nvidia GPU, but since updated to 10.15.3 and added an RX580. I did however, keep the old Model Identifier of iMac 18,3. Do you think that updating to iMac 19,1 might help?

I'm on iMac19,1 (and was whilst using Clover) so that's worth a try. You could also compare your OC EFI to mine (posted previously) to see whether any of my settings differ to yours. Bear in mind your build is a Z370, and mine is a Z390. Other people more knowledgeable than I can tell you whether there are any particular differences to look out for.
 
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