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Stork's Thunderball II Build: ASUS ProArt Z490 Creator (Thunderbolt 3) - i5-10400 - AMD RX 580

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See the @CaseySJ thread which I referenced above. He has dealt with numerous uses who have Apollo Thunderbolt devices. If the Vision D needed its TB chipset modified to use the Apollo, then you are better off getting a Vision D as he has the fixes needed for Apollo.

My system is working fine for my use which uses my older audio peripherals via my Other World Computing TB3 dock with a Firewire port. I'm using a Dell P2715 4K monitor now (which I bought used for a nice price). My last couple of motherboard systems have been Asus, and I've not have any problems using them.
I'll need it for my UAD Apollo ;)

The Vision D is hard to find in my country.
Then go for the Asus ProArt Z490 Creator. I can recommend it. I have the TB3 connected to a One World Computing (OWC) TB3 dock. I have a TB3 external NVMe drive and a Firewire audio interface to the dock. Works as expected.

I assumed by that post Thunderbolt devices including UAD Apollo would work as expected. Are there known issues with Apollo devices and this board?
 

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I assumed by that post Thunderbolt devices including UAD Apollo would work as expected. Are there known issues with Apollo devices and this board?
Check this thread:


I search for "Apollo" in the thread. The first reference to "Apollo" is in post #52.

However, it turns out that the TB SSDT works with the Apollo.
 
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Has anyone tried the new BIOS for the Asus ProArt Z490 Creator, yet?
v2103 is now the ony update available on the Asus web site.
 

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From what I'm gathering with the information available is that apollo works fine with the use the ASUS-Z490-PRO-ART-CREATOR-TB3-V3 SSDT.
which is attached to the OP.
Has anyone tried the new BIOS for the Asus ProArt Z490 Creator, yet?
v2103 is now the ony update available on the Asus web site.
Not yet. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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I successfully updated my Big Sur test disk to 11.3.1. All went well, and the updated Big Sur test disk is running all OK, so far.

I had previously updated both my Mojave and Big Sur installations to OpenCore 0.6.9. However, I've never mapped out my USB on my Z490 before now, I used USBmap to perform that task before the upgrade. Note: USBMap produces two kexts. I only used the USBMap.kext. I then added USBMap.kext to both my Mojave and Big Sur config.plists on my installations, changed the config.plist>Kernel>Quirks>XhciPortLimit=False, and finally made sure that both Mojave and Big Sur worked before updating Big Sur. Since they did, I updated Big Sur installation to 11.3.1. Good to go!
 
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New BIOS features:


ProART Z490-CREATOR 10G BIOS 2103
"-The latest UEFI BIOS updates enable Intel ABT for 11th Gen Intel Core i9-11900K and i9-11900KF processors.
- Support 11th Gen Intel® Core™ Processors
- improve ReSizable BAR compatibility for NVIDIA RTX30 series graphics cards
- Improve System Performance
- improve DRAM performance
- Support intel ABT function
- improve System stability
- update AURA firmware
- improve DRAM compatibility"


I updated yesterday and all seemed to go well, I'll report back after a week of use.

Edit:
- Can't seem to disable Intel VT-x anymore but it's working fine in Big Sur/Catalina
 
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* Important For Usbinjectall/Big Sur Users*

While trying to isolate a completely unrelated boot hang I noticed that when using "USBInjectAll.kext" and "Kernel>Quirks>XhciPortLimit=True" on this motherboard USB will not work at all on the latest Big Sur.

It is very important that you make a correct USBmap before updating!! It works 100% fine with a USBmap, Catalina remains unaffected.

I made a rough guide in Post #127.

Edit: Attaching my USBMap.kext for people who get locked out of Big Sur 11.3 due to USB issues. Don't use this for production, it's a get of jail free card.

Edit 2: apparently the rear type c ports will work for usb 2 devices
 

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And that's me 100% done for now so thought I'd share a couple of pics of the completed build if that's ok:
Upgrading from an ASUS Z97-WS / 4790K which feels like this board's grandpa :headbang:

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Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini
Sorry for the offtopic, but tell me what kind of power supply model? Very beautiful braid of wires))))
 
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