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[SOLVED] [10.13.5] BCM94360CS2 + M.2 NGFF can't turn on WiFi

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@dasboot5,

WiFI/BT card will only use one PCIe lane so it should work in any slot, and as you've tested those slots using your USB3 PCIe card that proves that the slots are working ... I seriously doubt that using the PCIe X 16 slot that your currently using for the GPU will work any better than the slots you've already tried.

It's strange issue to be sure . . .

Have you tried booting a linux live USB and running lspci from the terminal ... if the WiFi card shows up then it would suggest that its a Windows issue, if not then it's most likely a hardware one ....

Other than trying another (different) card such as the one i suggested i don't know what else to suggest ...

Cheers
Jay
 
Jay,
Is lspci a builtin application in the Linux live distro or is it separate application I need to add to run from Terminal?
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Yes it is built in (tested the osxwif version) it shows in list.
Yet to test the newer cards. Will update when I have results.
 
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dasboot5 said:
You are correct Jay they are not stacked, and I have a 3rd OSXWifi card/carrier that is working on a Generation 4 machine that have and I can try. I have not tried DCPCI Manager on this machine as I have not installed High Sierra yet. These cards should be recognized by HWinfo 64 which is essentially he same as DCPCI on the windows side to some degree. I did the test one carrier at time. The option is to pull the video card GTX 1060 and reenable onboard, use the X16 as the test slot. Note there are two M.2's, a Samusng 960 Pro and a 970 Pro in two of the MB m.2 slots There are 3 slots but this should not really have any bearing. The 970 is not formatted yet it is for High Sierra at a later date. The 960 has Windows 10 pro now and had 7 Ultimate for activation purposes. Having 7 on a generation 8 board causes problems as Microsoft has added badgering popups and has locked out Windows update because they do not want you to load this older operating system on a machine with a Gen 8 processor. There is a workaround for this popup windows update problem. Here is a link to the machine with the problem. https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/a-g5-work-in-progress-template-when-finished.256631/#post-1788417
I can pull the USB 3.1 PCIE card, and the video and test these carriers and see if they show up at all. I would hate to have to replace the board to get this to work. There are two hardwire networks on this baord one Intel and the other is a Killer E2500 with a Rivet driver. If anything is may be a conflict with the Killer crap.
The reason there is a separate USB card with a 20 pin is I have the LaserHive front panel option next to the factory Apple power button array. The power button is now a reset buttton. The Lian Li front Panel USB 3.0 ports have 2 20pin cables. one is going direct to the Z370, the other to the USB addon card. Serial ATA power gos direct to addon card.
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Jay,
This mystery is not solved, I installed a working OSXwifi version which I believe is msata not mini PCIe like the two others and it was recoginzed by windows as Broadcom 4360 just as the others were recognized as 4360's in the Z270 machine. It is possible that the newer carriers are detected as NVME devices and there may be a max. device limitation which I am exceeding when installing these carriers in this board, when I have 2 NVME m.2 Samsung drives. Here are some pics of the cards. You have seen the OSX wifi version and they no longer sell the older msata. The Z270 only has one NVME WDigital M.2.
Update: some of the mystery is explained.here even though x16, x8 and x4 slots are supposed to be backward compatable with x1:
For those who are trying to use PCI-E Wi-Fi/Bluetooth adapter card in x2, x4, x8, x16 slot:

Most motherboards refuse to work with PCI-E adapters that have both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth powered from PCI-E port other then x1 port. If installed in x2, x4, x8, x16 ports you will have either Wi-Fi or Bluetooth working but not both at the same time.
There is two solutions for this problem:

1. When PCI-E x1 slot is blocked/covered by Video Card: Bplus KZ-B21 (P21S-P21F) : High speed PCI-E Express Extender 1x Riser Externder Card
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GWM6C8Y
Note: OSXwifi card is in an X1 slot currently and is detected by OSX High Sierra Unibeast, Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS and Windoes 10 Pro. I have yet to try the two cards below and I am still waiting for the Fenvi FV-T919 because I bought from eBay rather than NewEgg.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
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jaymonkey said:
@dasboot5,

From reading your post I assume that both the carriers/adapters are Apple WiFi Combo card specific --> to PCIe Carier ?
and you are not using a Apple WiFi Slot Adapter --> A+E M.2 Adapter --> M.2 PCIe Carrier ?

If the latter (which i don't think it is) then there have been mixed results using stacked adapters on certain Motherboards.

If the former, then I don't know what to suggest, you've proven that both cards work in the i5 Z270 system so you know the cards are good ...

The Bluetooth part of the combo card chipset should always work as it's usually connected to an internal USB header.

If the card is not showing up on the PCIe bus on the i7 Z370 using DPCIManager then that is a strange one .. I suppose its possible the BIOS is blacklisting the device .... but I think that would be highly unlikely as most enthusiast motherboards do not black list anything, only OEM manufactures such as HP, Lenovo .. etc implement BIOS black listing.

The only thing i can think of is to try updating your BIOS to the latest release .... if that does not work you could try a MOD BIOS, i've read that Gigabyte are not doing a good job at keeping their BIOS updates in check and many users have taken to using a MOD BIOS thats includes more recent microcode and embedded device ROM updates. Might be worth a try ... at least with Gigabyte you have the Dual BIOS feature so you can switch between the two and keep your existing BIOS as a fall back.

I doubt that there is a problem with the Z370 board if everything else is work ok .... Other than trying an alternative card i don't have any other suggestions for you, I've had very good success with BCM943602CS PCIe/PCI-1X cards which i purchased from eBay.

Good Luck
Cheers
Jay
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hello jaymonkey, I read your post but not found how to find the pin 54 & 56, can you give some tips to me ? I cannot find the diagram of bcm94360cs2
 
wdde.wd said:
hello jaymonkey, I read your post but not found how to find the pin 54 & 56, can you give some tips to me ? I cannot find the diagram of bcm94360cs2
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@wdde.wd,

The odd numbered pins are on the top side of the card and the even numbered pins are on the rear of the card.
If you look at you card you should se that pin 2 is at the left and pin 74 is at the right.
I tend to count the pins from the right (pin 74) descending, count 11 pins to the left which should be pin 54.

Pins 54 and 56 are detailed in this image :-

bcmwifi.jpg

Note: that it's quite normal for lots of pins to be missing (which may be different on your card to the above image) but you still have count the missing ones.

Hope this helps ..

Cheers
Jay
 
jaymonkey said:
@wdde.wd,

The odd numbered pins are on the top side of the card and the even numbered pins are on the rear of the card.
If you look at you card you should se that pin 2 is at the left and pin 74 is at the right.
I tend to count the pins from the right (pin 74) descending, count 11 pins to the left which should be pin 54.

Pins 54 and 56 are detailed in this image :-

View attachment 394501

Note: that it's quite normal for lots of pins to be missing (which may be different on your card to the above image) but you still have count the missing ones.

Hope this helps ..

Cheers
Jay
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thank you Jay, I just found my bcm..cs2 is not same with this, I guess the picture is for bcm94352ZAE?
 
wdde.wd said:
thank you Jay, I just found my bcm..cs2 is not same with this, I guess the picture is for bcm94352ZAE?
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@wdde.wd,

The image i posted was just an example ... the pin location is the same for all M.2 combo cards.
Just count 11 pins (including missing pins) form the right hand side on the rear of the card to find pin 54.

Cheers
Jay
 
maricn said:
Hi all,


After installing the module and adapter, I immediately had Bluetooth working, but I spend last couple of days trying out all various solutions provided on the forum to make the WiFi work, but without success. WiFi is always off.
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Can you share how did you solve this problem? I have the same problem . Thanks
 
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GA-Z87X-UD3H |  i7 4770K |  RX 580 Pulse 8GB
Bought a BCM94360CS2 via AliExpress and it was recognized out of the box, but could not turn the WiFi on. Running Catalina 10.15.3.

Tried many, many solutions and the only one that ended up working was taping over those damn pins. FYI, this page helped me so much.
 
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