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ahmednabilkha

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Hello. I was checking AppleGraphicsPowerManagmement kext plist and found this difference in code between MBP 8.1 smbios & 8.2!

8.1 :
Code: 
</dict>
                <key>MacBookPro8,1</key>
                <dict>
                    <key>IGPU</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>Heuristic</key>
                        <dict>
                            <key>BusyDownThresholdPercent</key>
                            <integer>70</integer>
                            <key>BusyUpThresholdPercent</key>
                            <integer>90</integer>
                            <key>DiagnosticModeDefault</key>
                            <integer>0</integer>
                            <key>EvaluateDownInterval</key>
                            <integer>350000</integer>
                            <key>EvaluateUpInterval</key>
                            <integer>66000</integer>
                            <key>ID</key>
                            <integer>2</integer>
                            <key>SensorOption</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                        </dict>
                        <key>control-id</key>
                        <integer>16</integer>
                        <key>max-power-state</key>
                        <integer>15</integer>
                        <key>min-power-state</key>
                        <integer>0</integer>
                    </dict>

8.2 :
Code: 
</dict>
                <key>MacBookPro8,2</key>
                <dict>
                    <key>IGPU</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>Heuristic</key>
                        <dict>
                            <key>BusyDownThresholdPercent</key>
                            <integer>70</integer>
                            <key>BusyUpThresholdPercent</key>
                            <integer>90</integer>
                            <key>DiagnosticModeDefault</key>
                            <integer>0</integer>
                            <key>EvaluateDownInterval</key>
                            <integer>350000</integer>
                            <key>EvaluateUpInterval</key>
                            <integer>66000</integer>
                            <key>ID</key>
                            <integer>2</integer>
                            <key>SensorOption</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                        </dict>
                        <key>control-id</key>
                        <integer>16</integer>
                        <key>max-power-state</key>
                        <integer>15</integer>
                        <key>min-power-state</key>
                        <integer>0</integer>
                    </dict>
                    <key>Vendor1002Device6741</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>QSC</key>
                        <dict>
                            <key>Enabled</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                            <key>Mode</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                            <key>hwPState</key>
                            <array>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>2</integer>
                            </array>
                            <key>qscOnTime</key>
                            <array>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>1440</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>2400</integer>
                                <integer>4000</integer>
                                <integer>5760</integer>
                                <integer>7680</integer>
                                <integer>9760</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                            </array>
                        </dict>
                        <key>control-id</key>
                        <integer>17</integer>
                        <key>max-power-state</key>
                        <integer>8</integer>
                    </dict>
                    <key>Vendor1002Device6760</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>QSC</key>
                        <dict>
                            <key>Enabled</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                            <key>Mode</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                            <key>hwPState</key>
                            <array>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>2</integer>
                            </array>
                            <key>qscOnTime</key>
                            <array>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>2240</integer>
                                <integer>3520</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>3680</integer>
                                <integer>4960</integer>
                                <integer>6720</integer>
                                <integer>9120</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                            </array>
                        </dict>
                        <key>control-id</key>
                        <integer>17</integer>
                        <key>max-power-state</key>
                        <integer>8</integer>
                    </dict>

Can this difference affect power management & performance?
 
RehabMan

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ahmednabilkha said:
Hello. I was checking AppleGraphicsPowerManagmement kext plist and found this difference in code between MBP 8.1 smbios & 8.2!

8.1 :
Code: 
</dict>
                <key>MacBookPro8,1</key>
                <dict>
                    <key>IGPU</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>Heuristic</key>
                        <dict>
                            <key>BusyDownThresholdPercent</key>
                            <integer>70</integer>
                            <key>BusyUpThresholdPercent</key>
                            <integer>90</integer>
                            <key>DiagnosticModeDefault</key>
                            <integer>0</integer>
                            <key>EvaluateDownInterval</key>
                            <integer>350000</integer>
                            <key>EvaluateUpInterval</key>
                            <integer>66000</integer>
                            <key>ID</key>
                            <integer>2</integer>
                            <key>SensorOption</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                        </dict>
                        <key>control-id</key>
                        <integer>16</integer>
                        <key>max-power-state</key>
                        <integer>15</integer>
                        <key>min-power-state</key>
                        <integer>0</integer>
                    </dict>

8.2 :
Code: 
</dict>
                <key>MacBookPro8,2</key>
                <dict>
                    <key>IGPU</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>Heuristic</key>
                        <dict>
                            <key>BusyDownThresholdPercent</key>
                            <integer>70</integer>
                            <key>BusyUpThresholdPercent</key>
                            <integer>90</integer>
                            <key>DiagnosticModeDefault</key>
                            <integer>0</integer>
                            <key>EvaluateDownInterval</key>
                            <integer>350000</integer>
                            <key>EvaluateUpInterval</key>
                            <integer>66000</integer>
                            <key>ID</key>
                            <integer>2</integer>
                            <key>SensorOption</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                        </dict>
                        <key>control-id</key>
                        <integer>16</integer>
                        <key>max-power-state</key>
                        <integer>15</integer>
                        <key>min-power-state</key>
                        <integer>0</integer>
                    </dict>
                    <key>Vendor1002Device6741</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>QSC</key>
                        <dict>
                            <key>Enabled</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                            <key>Mode</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                            <key>hwPState</key>
                            <array>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>2</integer>
                            </array>
                            <key>qscOnTime</key>
                            <array>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>1440</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>2400</integer>
                                <integer>4000</integer>
                                <integer>5760</integer>
                                <integer>7680</integer>
                                <integer>9760</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                            </array>
                        </dict>
                        <key>control-id</key>
                        <integer>17</integer>
                        <key>max-power-state</key>
                        <integer>8</integer>
                    </dict>
                    <key>Vendor1002Device6760</key>
                    <dict>
                        <key>QSC</key>
                        <dict>
                            <key>Enabled</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                            <key>Mode</key>
                            <integer>1</integer>
                            <key>hwPState</key>
                            <array>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>1</integer>
                                <integer>2</integer>
                            </array>
                            <key>qscOnTime</key>
                            <array>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>2240</integer>
                                <integer>3520</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                                <integer>3680</integer>
                                <integer>4960</integer>
                                <integer>6720</integer>
                                <integer>9120</integer>
                                <integer>0</integer>
                            </array>
                        </dict>
                        <key>control-id</key>
                        <integer>17</integer>
                        <key>max-power-state</key>
                        <integer>8</integer>
                    </dict>

Can this difference affect power management & performance?
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MacBookPro8,2 probably has dual-GPU, which is why you see GPU PM profile for Vendor 1002 (ATI).
The extra profile data probably has no effect when you don't have an AMD/ATI GPU, but probably best to avoid MacBookPro8,2 unless you have matching hardware.

You can check hardware specifications for Apple hardware at everymac.com.
 
ahmednabilkha

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RehabMan said:
MacBookPro8,2 probably has dual-GPU, which is why you see GPU PM profile for Vendor 1002 (ATI).
The extra profile data probably has no effect when you don't have an AMD/ATI GPU, but probably best to avoid MacBookPro8,2 unless you have matching hardware.

You can check hardware specifications for Apple hardware at everymac.com.
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I have the same CPU of 8.2 but HD 3000 only. Can this affect anything?
 
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ahmednabilkha said:
I have the same CPU of 8.2 but HD 3000 only. Can this affect anything?
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Since MacBookPro8,2 is dual GPU (Apple proprietary GMUX) and your laptop is Intel only, you should probably not be using MacBookPro8,2.

MacBookPro8,1 is a better choice.
 
ahmednabilkha

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  1. MacBook Pro
Mobile Phone
  1. iOS
RehabMan said:
Since MacBookPro8,2 is dual GPU (Apple proprietary GMUX) and your laptop is Intel only, you should probably not be using MacBookPro8,2.

MacBookPro8,1 is a better choice.
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Even if my laptop has the same identical CPU model -i7 quad core QM- as 8.2 ?
 
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ahmednabilkha said:
Even if my laptop has the same identical CPU model -i7 quad core QM- as 8.2 ?
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CPU is not the most important criteria.
Often times, the dual GPU SMBIOS causes problems for single GPU hacks.
 
ahmednabilkha

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Dell Inspiron 15R N5110 (Clover UEFI)
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  1. iOS
RehabMan said:
CPU is not the most important criteria.
Often times, the dual GPU SMBIOS causes problems for single GPU hacks.
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So, choosing smbios based on GPU is more important than the CPU similarities or generation or number of cores?
i mean, isn't choosing smbios like Macbook Pro 8.2 -which has identical CPU- for my hack is like a real macbook pro 8.2 with a failed/disabled AMD gpu?
 
ahmednabilkha

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RehabMan said:
Sometimes... it really depends on what you run into.
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Isn't choosing smbios like Macbook Pro 8.2 -which has identical CPU for my hack- is masking a real macbook pro 8.2 with a failed/disabled AMD gpu?
 
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ahmednabilkha said:
Isn't choosing smbios like Macbook Pro 8.2 -which has identical CPU for my hack- is masking a real macbook pro 8.2 with a failed/disabled AMD gpu?
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No idea what you mean by "is masking a real macbook pro 8.2 with a failed/disabled AMD gpu?".
 
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