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pastrychef's testing machine - HP Elite 8300 SFF - i7-3770 - GT 630

pastrychef

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To get 4K/60Hz I just added a PNY Quadro K600 and it works OOB. They can be used LP in the SFF or full height in the MT versions. Cost was just under 19 USD. The average price on Ebay is about 25 USD so even less than a GT 710. The K600 has one DP 1.2 output for a single monitor. For Multi 4K monitors (2 or 3) the NVS 510 card works too. Those cost closer to about 90 USD used/refurb.
I think that if the price is close it is best to get the newer SL or KL CPU. For me it doesn't really matter because I've got newer systems that can do all the things an IB system can't. It's my secondary machine just for general use so quicksync features aren't too important. I really don't mind using older versions of OS X or macOS. Some of the oldies like Tiger and Mavericks are my favorites and I still use them on two of my systems. One is a 1st gen Mac mini that still works well. Got it with a G4 chip and OS X Tiger right before Apple announced the Intel transition in 2005. Was never even able to install Snow Leopard on it. They cut off the older PowerPC based Macs quickly once the Intel transition got going. It was only eligible for one OS X update to Leopard. I never bothered doing that update.
I'm always trying to run the latest version of macOS. Lol

I'm also still bitter at Nvidia and really don't want to purchase any of their cards new or used.
 

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I'm also still bitter at Nvidia and really don't want to purchase any of their cards new or used.
Yeah, It seems that the new MP won't even support Nvidia cards via eGPU. That is really too bad because so many pros would like to have that option. I've had good luck with Nvidia in the past but won't be buying any of their new Ray Tracing cards. Have no interest in that. Their prices have gone ballistic too.
 
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HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF
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HD4000
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Major point I forgot to mention, I'm not in the US. Geography plays a big part in availability!
Me as well, I'm in Canada. Plenty of 8300 available in a few form factors, at very affordable prices. I had difficulty even finding available newer ones unless the price rose significantly.

I may be proven wrong, but I'm thinking the 2012 Intel based machines won't be unsupported for a while, as the MacBook Pro 2012 was manufactured up until 2016. Thinking that the processor may be the deciding factor in Apple's decision to end support as they so often, prematurely do.
 
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Yeah, It seems that the new MP won't even support Nvidia cards via eGPU. That is really too bad because so many pros would like to have that option. I've had good luck with Nvidia in the past but won't be buying any of their new Ray Tracing cards. Have no interest in that. Their prices have gone ballistic too.
Guys, I really appreciate the discussion! For me, graphics aren't a big thing as I don't game and don't do video work. My main interests and work are in database (for dollars) and music (for my soul ;-). Perhaps by the time the 8300 is unable to support a later MacOS, the later ones that are "too expensive" now will have dropped in price but be able to run the newer MacOS versions. Otherwise, I'll dedicate a machine to run with my audio setup and be happy with what it is. My audio interface and controller are discontinued Presonus, so the obsolescence match is pretty good on all ;-)
 
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HP 8300 CMT
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RX560
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@pastrychef posting here in reference to my question in your Dell "clunker" thread here - seems more relevant here as it is an 8300 and I have followed and posted throughout this thread. Indeed, this thread started me on the hackintosh journey!

I have obtained the same RX560 as you (PowerColor RX 560 DHV2/OC) and am looking forward to using it. I am still running 10.13.6 as I have not yet got the confidence to upgrade. I hope to install the RX560, check all is working, and then migrate to Mojave when I am sure everything is still stable. This build has been rock solid stable to date :)

I have attached my EFI as requested and any advice very much appreciated. I am currently running a GT710 card and also my i7-3770 does have onboard HD4000.
 

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@pastrychef posting here in reference to my question in your Dell "clunker" thread here - seems more relevant here as it is an 8300 and I have followed and posted throughout this thread. Indeed, this thread started me on the hackintosh journey!

I have obtained the same RX560 as you (PowerColor RX 560 DHV2/OC) and am looking forward to using it. I am still running 10.13.6 as I have not yet got the confidence to upgrade. I hope to install the RX560, check all is working, and then migrate to Mojave when I am sure everything is still stable. This build has been rock solid stable to date :)

I have attached my EFI as requested and any advice very much appreciated. I am currently running a GT710 card and also my i7-3770 does have onboard HD4000.
Just swap out the GT 710 for the RX 560. I don't see anything in your EFI folder that would give you problems.

Update Clover and your hackintosh kexts and you should not have any problems with running Mojave either.
 
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@pastrychef or any other Hackintosh experts
I have been reading all of you posts with supporting folks with HP 8300 SFF trying to use RX 560. I appreciate how much help you provide. I have High Sierra, HP 8300 SFF currently configured with a Nvidia 710. I purchased the MSI Radeon 560 and have been trying to get it to work but no success. Upon bootup, it gets about 80% then the monitor loses connection. I'd be grateful if you could steer me in the right direction. I have provided my EFI folder.
Thanks!
 

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@pastrychef or any other Hackintosh experts
I have been reading all of you posts with supporting folks with HP 8300 SFF trying to use RX 560. I appreciate how much help you provide. I have High Sierra, HP 8300 SFF currently configured with a Nvidia 710. I purchased the MSI Radeon 560 and have been trying to get it to work but no success. Upon bootup, it gets about 80% then the monitor loses connection. I'd be grateful if you could steer me in the right direction. I have provided my EFI folder.
Thanks!
There really shouldn't be anything that needs to be done to use the RX 560. For me, it was just plug-n-play.

You can try updating to a newer version of Clover and AppleALC, Lilu, and WhateverGreen.

Remember, IntelGraphicsFixup, IntelGraphicsDVTMFixup, and NvidiaGraphicsFixup have all been depreciated and their functionality has been rolled in to WhateverGreen. So, if/when you upgrade to WhateverGreen, you should delete those 3 kexts.
 

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I'm hoping for support for Q77 chipset and Ivy Bridge to continue with 10.15 and I think it will.
Great news. Apple's macOS Catalina will still continue support for Ivy Bridge systems like the 8300s so many people are using. Means you get to keep your system definition whether you use iMac 13,2 or Mac mini 6,1 or 6,2. HD4000 will still be supported as well as all of the Kepler cards that were supported in Mojave. What happens after 10.15 is anyone's guess but this extension of support through next year is awesome.
 

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Great news. Apple's macOS Catalina will still continue support for Ivy Bridge systems like the 8300s so many people are using. Means you get to keep your system definition whether you use iMac 13,2 or Mac mini 6,1 or 6,2. HD4000 will still be supported as well as all of the Kepler cards that were supported in Mojave. What happens after 10.15 is anyone's guess but this extension of support through next year is awesome.
It seems like Apple is supporting Macs longer than they had in the past. The 2010 Mac Pro was officially supported up until Mojave. That's 9 years.
 
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