new to this! advice wholeheartedly appreciated for new super video editor!!!

[jakepowell1]

so as title suggests im looking to build a video editing system with a tonne of power designed with the sole purpose of editing footage and rendering etc,
programs used are largely:

adobe premier pro
after effects
speed grade
davinci resolve (lite)

im currently doing this work on a macbook pro ! (souped up with ssd boot drive 1tb storage in optical bay and lots of externals and 16gb of ram with amd radeon 6750m graphics card ) it copes ok for small projects advertisement videos and basic colour correction stuff but its a touch slow.... AND ... i am about to embark on the production of a short film/ single episodic drama (1hr long ish) and can tell this just ain't gunna cut the mustard !

i work with largely 1080p files from lumix gh2 (hacked to 150+ mbps data rates if any off you are into film / budget indie film projects i really canot recomend this camera more for the budget its insane once you get a lovely driftwood intra hack on it - check out personal-veiw.com ) anyway ...
yeah footage from gh2 and gh3 in 1080p avchd format transcoded into pro res (a job this build will be doing also) then edited in those programs

i also anticipate working with the new black magic pocket camera which outputs 10 bit 1080p files in pro res natively or 12bit compressed raw in cinema dng file type ...

finally i do anticipate working on larger resolutions in future like 2 /2.5 k and even 4k in future so the ability to cope with these size resolutions in high bit rate would be something i want to factor into the build to future proof it. also 10 bit or 12 bit workflow would be awesome but im pretty sure my budget isn't permitting ....let me know if u have ideas re this though

i want to spend as close to £2000 GBP as possible but il flex if its going to benifit from going a bit over , open to spending up to £3000 with monitor (s) so £3000 absolute max all in for the studio set up...




without further ado heres my shopping list so far let me know if i have made mistakes or dont need stuff or need some different stuff or dont have enough pcie lanes or whatever cuz i am brand spanking new to this stuff so go easy yeah?

GIGABYTE x79S-UP5 MOBO (easy to work with as this is first hack with plenty of space for ram and a few pcie 3.0 x16 slots and usb 3.0)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008UG5LTG/?tag=tonymacx86-21

3930K CPU (6 threads 12 when hyperthreading great for my applications and overclockable to get even more performance)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00681D9ZI/?tag=tonymacx86-21

GIGABYTE WINDFORCE EDITION GTX 670 GRAPHICS CARD (overclocked out the box powerful will allow cuda on the programs that really want this and open cl when enabled to work over 2000mb with fix)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008MQYOFQ/?tag=tonymacx86-21

CORSAIR VENGENCE 32GB 1866MHZ DDR3 RAM (4 x 8 gb sticks so i can expand to 64gb if and when required / wanted )

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0095L8GDI/?tag=tonymacx86-21

OWC MERCUY ACCELSIOR PCIE SSD 120GB (super fast ssd using pcie slot for boot drive I beleive my mobo supports 3 pcie 3.0 slots so is it possible to give one to the graphics card and one to this and then one to the wifi card???)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0095L8GDI/?tag=tonymacx86-21

SEAGATE BARRACUDA 3TB 7200RMP HDD ​(storage drive maybe 2 of these but il start with one and buy another when necessary i think)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006KCX0UE/?tag=tonymacx86-21


CORSAIR H100i CPU COOLER (keep my temps right down when oc'ing and goot fit for my case ...)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BG6LDRQ/?tag=tonymacx86-21

CORSAIR 600T GRAPHITE CASE IN BLACK (wicked case from what i have heard with loads of room to work and get great cable management and airflow in black cuz im not a fan of this thing looking like a stormtrooper i want it understated and stylish and a beast )

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004X63JWS/?tag=tonymacx86-21


​CORSAIR HX1050W PROFESSIONAL SERIES MODULAR PSU (may have gone over board here but i want a system that can be up graded peice by peice as and when they get dated, i figure this power supply will future proof it a bit and i wont have to buy a new one when i change components in future ?? )

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008O0RW7C/?tag=tonymacx86-21

LG BLU RAY DVD (sometimes i want to use / burn a disk )

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AK29B26/?tag=tonymacx86-21

WIFI CARD PCIe TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 N900 (this will use my last pcie slot and establish out the box wifi plug and play yes?) (sorry do not know whats happened to my font ahaha )

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006PMX964/?tag=tonymacx86-21

and some fans

BITFENIX 200MM SPECTRE

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0067LYYI0/?tag=tonymacx86-21

CORSAIR 2 X 120 MM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007RESGD0/?tag=tonymacx86-21

some arctic silver thermal paste and a anti static wrist band to build this sh*t!!!

OKAY! so appologies on an extremely long post but i wanted to give you guys the most info i could !
so i can get some great advice back !
what do you think? anything i should change add or remove? any technical oversights or just rookie errors?

thanks in advance! im very excited

 

[Dan Wells]

I'm looking at a very similar build for photography, and I have run across a couple of things that might be relevant...

1.) The Gigabyte motherboard has had some trouble with heat throttling (on some of the PC sites) - it seems to be set to throttle performance at EXTREMELY conservative temperatures (conservative enough that many of the PC types think it's a bug - it'll sometimes throttle when not even overclocked). This seems to be worse with 64 GB of RAM, and some of the PC folk report that it also crashes with 64 GB - it may not really be able to handle all of its memory slots full. The ASUS Rampage IV Extreme is also relatively standard and easy to Hackintosh (there are a couple of excellent guides to it on this site), and is extremely stable by all accounts.

2.)ASUS only recommends 64 GB of RAM if all 8 DIMMs are part of a single, matched set. I was thinking the same thing that you are - 32 now, leave 4 slots to expand to 64, but some of the PC types and ASUS technical support say that you get maximum stability with 64 GB perfectly matched. I don't know how this would be affected if you bought 32 now, then bought 32 more of EXACTLY the same RAM? If anyone has tried this, let us know...

3.) Video cards: I can't figure out whether imaging applications really use a lot of GPU performance - you are using After Effects, which I'm pretty sure DOES... Also note that none of the GeForce cards (except the Titan) will really support a 4k monitor (if this matters to you in the future). The only way to get a resolution above 2560x1600 is to connect the monitor to two ports at the same time (probably the two DVI ports). This causes all sorts of issues, because the OS considers the high-resolution display to be two monitors (a couple of PC video types have tried this with a 4k TV), so menus, palettes and the like don't work right. The 7000-series Radeons support monitors up to 4000 x 3000 without using two ports. This was enough to convince me to go Radeon...

 

[jakepowell1]

Thanks dan , all interesting info , I did look at the Asus extreme you mentioned , its quite a bit more than the gigabyte in the uk , but may be worth it , memories pretty cheap these days so if it does require a matched set I guess you could eBay the 1st batch and not lose much money ,
it terms of video card I did know that about Nividia unfortunately Titan is outa my price range so I guess I will have to settle for 2k viewing , I can live with that , radeon isn't an option really for me as cuda acceleration is vastly improved over open cl in those program's currently , it could change but I doubt it will enough within the next 4 years or so as most video editors have bought into cuda .... Thanks for your response some interesting stuff to chew over ,

 

[Dan Wells]

Hi Jake-
Look into what Adobe's doing with OpenCL (both AMD and NVidia) vs. CUDA (NVidia only) - I think CS7 (or is it CS6.5 that they'll be releasing in a couple months) may be moving to OpenCL? I remember this from NAB coverage, and here's a reference to it - Adobe has officially announced this(I hope posting random links is OK).

http://www.motionvfx.com/mblog/adob...looks_opencl_support_and_much_more,p2366.html

Resolve is already OpenCL, and I don't know about SpeedGrade...

Many of these things are moving toward OpenCL, both to give users options, and because some of the pro software companies are apparently unhappy with the "gaming-only" focus of the 600-series GeForce cards. The counter to that is that there is talk of a smaller, less costly Titan this summer, which will be balanced between gaming and compute similarly to the present one (and I haven't seen any mention of whether it'll have working 4k, but it probably will if an AMD 7700 can)


-Dan

 

[jakepowell1]

ah dan thanks again !
i had heard something about this but after your link and research it looks like it could be an interesting time to wait a little while and see what the support is like and what this new cheaper titan product from nividia transpires to be!
is it possible to run both nividia and an amd radeon in the same system to switch between the two to get the best of both worlds???!

i have a few months to mull over stuff before i begin purchasing parts anyway so i have reasearch time and new developments on my side