Mac Pro (late 2013) replica

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  1. Mr.Target

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    Feb 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM #111
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    Sascha288 thank you for the inspiration, I am in :D
    And I am also going to do some changes to your design, I am trying to do low power build:

    http://www.tonymacx86.com/mac-pro-m...ca-late-2013-low-power-design.html#post758183

    BTW, I really like the idea of turning the top of the trash can upside down, this is really useful and it is nice example of thinking out of the box ;)

    (unrelated) Do you you realize how much did you help to the company making these thrash cans? They should give you part of the profit :D
     
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    Feb 13, 2014 at 10:38 PM #112
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    Sascha, how did you do the small Apple logo on the front and back? Also, did you paint it yourself? How, and what did you use?
    Thanks!
     
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    Feb 15, 2014 at 8:41 PM #113
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    Hi sascha! Please, What power supply did you use in your building and how you attached? Thanks.
    Finally my order has come from Germany and I have the original Lunar trashcan by Authentics. I should start by some part...;)
     
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    Mar 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM #114
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    The problem of this mod is that: who make it, does not understand at all the essence of the innovation of the new mac pro!
    The innovation is not the round shape!
    It is just the result. The really new and innovative is that Apple loosing the separate heat sinks and fans and all the hot parts are connected to a huge, well heated heatsink!
    So simple!
    Of course the best, and most effective way to cool this huge heatsink, if it is standing, so that is why became a tower shape. It is just a little add if it is not a square based shape, or rounded square but all round... Does not matter...

    So if you want to make a replica, at least as the principle of Apple, than should remove all the extra cooling elements from main board and the video card and change the position vice, towards to a big heatsink. It will require some more addition small alloy or coper elements to make good heat connection between the hot parts (CPU, GPU etc) element and heatsink.

    This way as it is written here in this topic is a complete project is a waste of time and stupidity...
     
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    Mar 3, 2014 at 11:34 PM #115
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    @szzs: Troll?

    It is NOT possible to do that, because you are limited in the size of Mainboard and in the option to make a heatsink.
    But thanks that you registered here to spread your wise words ^^
     
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    Mar 3, 2014 at 11:42 PM #116
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    So you have just logged in to let us know that we are all stupid? And you know that because your opinion is the right one? Seriously, there must be a beautiful picture of a troll somewhere on the Internet you should set as your avatar :thumbup:
     
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    I'm sure he is the type who managed to get a CPU in the socket the right way around and got a motherboard to successfully post. That is all he needed to be an expert.

    Congratulations on completely missing the point. When the new mac pro came out, many said it looked like a trash can. How better to show your humor and ingenuity than to make one FROM a trash can.

    I, as I suspect Sascha, thought about a "thermal core" but found that it would require equipment we dont have to properly machine a heatsink to fit over and around the components of an off the shelf GPU. There were many other considerations, but I wont bother you with the details as clearly you wouldn't understand.
     
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    Mar 5, 2014 at 9:40 PM #118
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    Sorry if misunderstood my words... When i wrote stupidity that was concerned to the project on THIS way!
    I am sure that the target was not the "making toilet brush or trash bin shape computer". The essence, and the innovation not the shape.
    It is not a waste of time at all, trying the most effective cooling system, without the risk of water-cooling and also extremely silent. Also, a good target to achieve simultaneously the most compact size.
    However just thinking about the round shape without any special idea about the more effective cooling, noise reduction, etc is a work for nothing.... so, ....
    Meantime there are a lot of risks with special mounting of parts, and so on.

    I would like to see such a mod, which use the Apple idea, and change the panels to opposite towards to a big common heatsink with some sub metal element for heat bridge between the hot parts and the heatsink. The huge advantage is the smaller unit, less fan,and due to the horizontal arrangement a massive native cooling potential.
    This is better, than the water-cooling method because no water leakage risk, no water pump noise, no big water radiator...
    For me, if the final box shape is a pretty rounded corner square, or all round, does no matter... (may be even looks better...)

    May be another big size reduction and silent / perfect cooling solution should be a peltier element cooling system, but it may requires big current power supply... Just an idea, may be a good PSU can supply enough current on the 3.3V / 5 V which enough for the purpose... I may calculate...

    So, I would like to see such a creative mods...
    (... and finally I even do not understand the word of "troll"....)
     
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    Mar 15, 2014 at 1:10 AM #119
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    Geez give these people a break. All they wanted to do was make a "replica" as in a look alike. People like the looks of the new Mac Pros so whats the big deal here? I think these builds are amazing and inovative and would love to see more like them. Not everything must be "exact" you know. Sure I bet they would love to be able to come up with some sort of thermal core but its not gonna be very easy with the way mobos and parts are right now. Maybe with the mobo from a Brix or NUC then there may be a better chance but then no GFX card so you win some and lose some.

    To sugest a peltier element for cooling indicates to me that you really don't understand how they work. It would create a huge amount of condensation buildup which in turn could kill the electronics. If the ice was to melt as it does when you power them off, it could drip into the PSU which would be extremely dangerous. Also they need 12v not 3v3 or 5v and quite the wattage too.

    BTW what risk is there with water cooling? You do realize none of the All-In-One "water" coolers actually use water anymore right? They use a non-conductive coolant instead and are a completely sealed system? Where is the risk?

    If you think you can do better then do so, we would love to see your ideas instead of shouting them at people.

    Keep up the great work people, love these builds :D
     
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    drooling honestly

    i wanna build one
     

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