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Is this really a "New" Gaming PC ?

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Saw this listing while browsing Ebay, looking for something else. Sounds like a reasonable price for new gaming PC with hardware prices being what they are. Should have at least a 1650 Super in there, right ? A tenth gen or newer Intel Core i5 for sure ? With all that rainbow RGB lighting, it has to be a real gaming PC, doesn't it ? In reality, it's not a gaming PC, unless you consider gaming playing Solitaire and Hearts online. Also, it's over priced by about $600 or more when you compare it to the cost of a regular, 11 year old refurbished PC.

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As you scroll down the listing and see what the detailed specs are, you soon find what a blatant ripoff this is.

Has a 2nd gen Intel i5-2400 that was new back in 2011 ! A GTX 650 1GB graphics card and a bare minimum for gaming, 8GB of DDR3 1333 MHz ram.

I really doubt the games FPS ratings even come close to what they suggest at those settings. Can you run any of the three games below with just 1GB of Vram ? IDK because I don't play Windows games.
  • 4 RGB Fan Gaming PC Desktop Computer
  • Runs Fortnite average 100 FPS on Low Settings and 60 FPS on medium settings. Runs Pubg average 30 FPS on low settings. Runs GTA5 average 30 FPS.
  • Core i5-2400 3.10 Ghz
  • GTX 650 1GB Video Card With DVI, HDMI and VGA outputs.
  • 1 Year Warranty.
Core i5-2400 3.10 Ghz
B75 LGA 1155 Motherboard
Video Card NVIDIA Gforce GTX 650 1GB

Here's the difference between a used 4GB RX 560 and the much older 1GB GTX 650. You can play games like Fortnite and GTA V with an RX560 and have a decent frame rate without stuttering.

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So don't fall for these "new" RGB gaming builds that are really charging you about $150 per new RGB lighted fan. Everything but the case and fans is likely not new, just excess, refurbished hardware pulled from obsolete machines that are being recycled. You could buy a new M1 Mac mini that would game better than this, in some titles, for under $700. An 8th gen Intel Mini would do far better than even that. You could install Windows 10 on it and upgrade the ram to 16GB yourself.

Here's a 2018 mini on Ebay with a quad core i3 and 16GB of ram. Sells for $390 or $333 less than the $723 refurb gaming PC in a shiny new case. You can still use an eGPU with these if you want to game. Would be way better than the ancient and terribly slow GTX 650 1GB. Better yet, the mini runs Ventura with no hacking required.

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Some poor chap bought one at this $750+ price back in May. Not sure how the seller has a 100% approval rating.
I'm sure the buyer could have built new system from all new parts for less, that performs many times better.

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What did the buyer really get ? Not a gaming PC. They bought a $752.86 Potato inside of a new case with lots of RGB fans. Damn inflation ! Food prices are out of control.

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Per 1st post, at 1024x768 those fps numbers seem possible. The Start Menu will cover the entire screen.

Idk about SW compat but there's endless accolades that Windows runs old stuff. Might need Win7. Listed "No OS" so it's buyers problem

I'm impressed by how well marketed it is! If a buyer is persuaded by pulsating lights, well isn't that just TV since the day it was invented? :))

Keep in mind that all that stuff was hot back in a day which is not that long ago. If you apply a reasoning of disdain for it in retrospect, you might honestly apply the same logic for the latest thing you can get now: IOW you're getting just as taken by the future, it just hasn't occurred to you yet.

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I always like to poke fun at Windows people for never wanting to use the latest version of Windows until they absolutely have to, (Windows 11 has about 20% adoption rate right now, and its a free upgrade from 10) but in this case, I don't think Windows 11 will run this "new" hardware.
 
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There is nothing surprising about that. Those people who have already managed to switch to Windows 11 can safely say that it is not yet a finished product, which Microsoft will finish for many years.
I know such people (who have switched) and their feedback is extremely negative.
Windows 11 is the first OS in Microsoft's history that has been seriously cut in terms of desktop functionality. You can see that the system was clearly not intended for PCs, but for tablet devices with two screens.
Sounds like windows 8 all over again. I would argue that Windows in general isn't a finished product. It's a terrible user experience and thankfully Valve is destroying their dominance in gaming.
 
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For many people: It has an Intel CPU and an Nvidia GPU so it must be a good gaming PC. And RGB!
 
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