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P95 Torture Blend running now while listening to 160k MP3 with Quick Look. How long should I do this? And what are we looking for?

Reading deeper in the aptiomemoryfix I think it's unrelated.
Just a couple of seconds is enough to cause the system to freeze if the issue is related to AVX offsets. Which apparently isn't the case for you, which is good.

I've had freezes with incorrect AVX offsets set. The issue is now somewhere else. Thanks for testing this.
 
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yes, In my case, random freezes occurs mostly when the computer is in idle state.
What's your average uptime until you get the system to freeze?
 
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What's your average uptime until you get the system to freeze?
I crashed the old HDD on last Friday. My Machine is still in testing with the new SSD. I will reboot the machine from time to time to play around the settings, maybe the average uptime is similar to yours.
 
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I crashed that old HDD on last Friday. My Machine is still in testing with the new SSD. I will reboot the machine from time to time to play around the settings, maybe the average uptime is similar to yours.
Ok. Really hard to diagnose this issue as it freezes after several ours of uptime and nothing is shown in logs :(. I'm now on Windows and planning to leaving on this OS for at least 24h to eliminate the possibility that I have faulty hardware.

Unless someone has a clue, my new testing will be to perform a fresh MacOS install and leave the system up and running for 24h to see if the freezes are there on a fresh install as well.

Spending more time to debug this build than actually using it...
 
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Ok. Really hard to diagnose this issue as it freezes after several ours of uptime and nothing is shown in logs :(. I'm now on Windows and planning to leaving on this OS for at least 24h to eliminate the possibility that I have faulty hardware.
but the same machine (with GT-640) was working fine on High Sierra 10.13.x for a couple of months.

the differences are:
old setup : GT-640, High Sierra 10.13.x, no problem
new setup : HD3000, Sierra 10.12.6, random freezing
 
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My issue is at least not load related - Prime95 test didn't crash the system at all. Definitely wondering if it's something about my SATA configuration, though. Especially since I have a fusion drive, I'm wondering if it's being kicked off during the cleanup task where OS X shifts things between SSD and the fusion drive.

The ICH10 fix in the above thread doesn't apply to me, I don't think (H87) mobo. I have SAT0->SATA, but haven't touched SATA otherwise.
 
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I was able to leave the system up all weekend without incident but when I came to work on Monday it froze within 20 minutes of me starting to use it.
Exactly the same behaviour here as it happened today. The system was left alone for 14+ hours, when I started to use it it just froze after 10 minutes.

I had a look at your list of kexts. I can see that we have Lilu in common. Could it be it?

C.f. https://github.com/vit9696/Lilu/issues/20

After I make sure Windows can handle 24h+ of uptime, I'll switch to MacOS without Lilu.kext and see if the freezes are gone.
 
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It's unlikely in my case - I installed Lilu and IntelGraphicsFixup as an early attempt to fix the same problem, so it predates their addition to my system.
 
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It's unlikely in my case - I installed Lilu and IntelGraphicsFixup as an early attempt to fix the same problem, so it predates their addition to my system.
Ok, so at least we know that's not the issue.

I have 24h+ hours of uptime on Windows, so that's definitely something related to MacOS.
 
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Apparently my last freeze was a KP, for which I was able to retrieve the debug info (at reboot a prompt asked me if I want to send the data to Apple, for which I said yes and clicked to display the detail):

Code:
Fri Jan 26 22:35:21 2018

*** Panic Report ***
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff8004d6e349): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f874adc09, type 13=general protection, registers:
CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x00000001629b0000, CR3: 0x0000001be5343171, CR4: 0x00000000003627e0
RAX: 0x0000000000007818, RBX: 0xffffff8109a0c480, RCX: 0x0000000000007818, RDX: 0xffffff7f8752a1f0
RSP: 0xffffff8df742df50, RBP: 0xffffff8df742df50, RSI: 0x0000000000000000, RDI: 0x0600000100004f90
R8:  0x0000000000000000, R9:  0x0000000000000003, R10: 0xffffff8e29e33e50, R11: 0xffffff8e29e33e40
R12: 0x0000000000000008, R13: 0xffffff800540afc0, R14: 0x0000000000007818, R15: 0xfffffd000004c720
RFL: 0x0000000000010006, RIP: 0xffffff7f874adc09, CS:  0x0000000000000008, SS:  0x0000000000000010
Fault CR2: 0x00000001629b0000, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Fault CPU: 0x0, PL: 4, VF: 0

Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xfffffd000004bf60 : 0xffffff8004c4f606 mach_kernel : _handle_debugger_trap + 0x506
0xfffffd000004bfb0 : 0xffffff8004d7c744 mach_kernel : _kdp_i386_trap + 0x114
0xfffffd000004bff0 : 0xffffff8004d6e159 mach_kernel : _kernel_trap + 0x5e9
0xfffffd000004c070 : 0xffffff8004c01120 mach_kernel : _return_from_trap + 0xe0
0xfffffd000004c090 : 0xffffff8004c4f03c mach_kernel : _panic_trap_to_debugger + 0x25c
0xfffffd000004c1c0 : 0xffffff8004c4edbc mach_kernel : _panic + 0x5c
0xfffffd000004c220 : 0xffffff8004d79e08 mach_kernel : _mp_kdp_enter + 0x468
0xfffffd000004c270 : 0xffffff8004c4f16a mach_kernel : _handle_debugger_trap + 0x6a
0xfffffd000004c2c0 : 0xffffff8004d7c744 mach_kernel : _kdp_i386_trap + 0x114
0xfffffd000004c300 : 0xffffff8004d6e159 mach_kernel : _kernel_trap + 0x5e9
0xfffffd000004c380 : 0xffffff8004c01120 mach_kernel : _return_from_trap + 0xe0
0xfffffd000004c3a0 : 0xffffff8004c4f03c mach_kernel : _panic_trap_to_debugger + 0x25c
0xfffffd000004c4d0 : 0xffffff8004c4edbc mach_kernel : _panic + 0x5c
0xfffffd000004c530 : 0xffffff8004d6e349 mach_kernel : _kernel_trap + 0x7d9
0xfffffd000004c6b0 : 0xffffff8004c01120 mach_kernel : _return_from_trap + 0xe0
0xfffffd000004c6d0 : 0xffffff7f874adc09 com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform : __ZN23AppleACPIPlatformExpert23dispatchGlobalInterruptEi + 0x19
0xffffff8df742df50 : 0xffffff7f874b6ad3 com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform : __ZN31AppleACPICPUInterruptController15handleInterruptEPvP9IOServicei + 0x6b
0xffffff8df742df70 : 0xffffff8004d6d873 mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x153
0xffffff8df742dfd0 : 0xffffff8004c012d6 mach_kernel : _hndl_allintrs + 0x126
0xffffff8df742ddd0 : 0xffffff8004d776f3 mach_kernel : _mp_cpus_call_cpu_init + 0x3e3
0xffffff8df742de40 : 0xffffff8004d77278 mach_kernel : _cpu_signal_handler + 0x3c8
0xffffff8df742df50 : 0xffffff7f874b6ad3 com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform : __ZN31AppleACPICPUInterruptController15handleInterruptEPvP9IOServicei + 0x6b
0xffffff8df742df70 : 0xffffff8004d6d873 mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x153
0xffffff8df742dfd0 : 0xffffff8004c012d6 mach_kernel : _hndl_allintrs + 0x126
0xffffff8df742ddd0 : 0xffffff8004d776f3 mach_kernel : _mp_cpus_call_cpu_init + 0x3e3
0xffffff8df742de40 : 0xffffff8004d77278 mach_kernel : _cpu_signal_handler + 0x3c8
0xffffff8df742df50 : 0xffffff7f874b6ad3 com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform : __ZN31AppleACPICPUInterruptController15handleInterruptEPvP9IOServicei + 0x6b
0xffffff8df742df70 : 0xffffff8004d6d873 mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x153
0xffffff8df742dfd0 : 0xffffff8004c012d6 mach_kernel : _hndl_allintrs + 0x126
0xffffff8df742ddd0 : 0xffffff8004d776f3 mach_kernel : _mp_cpus_call_cpu_init + 0x3e3
0xffffff8df742de40 : 0xffffff8004d77278 mach_kernel : _cpu_signal_handler + 0x3c8
0xffffff8df742df50 : 0xffffff7f874b6ad3 com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform : __ZN31AppleACPICPUInterruptController15handleInterruptEPvP9IOServicei + 0x6b
0xffffff8df742df70 : 0xffffff8004d6d873 mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x153
0xffffff8df742dfd0 : 0xffffff8004c012d6 mach_kernel : _hndl_allintrs + 0x126
0xffffff8df742ddd0 : 0xffffff8004d776f3 mach_kernel : _mp_cpus_call_cpu_init + 0x3e3
0xffffff8df742de40 : 0xffffff8004d77278 mach_kernel : _cpu_signal_handler + 0x3c8
0xffffff8df742df50 : 0xffffff7f874b6ad3 com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform : __ZN31AppleACPICPUInterruptController15handleInterruptEPvP9IOServicei + 0x6b
0xffffff8df742df70 : 0xffffff8004d6d873 mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x153
0xffffff8df742dfd0 : 0xffffff8004c012d6 mach_kernel : _hndl_allintrs + 0x126
0xffffff8df742ddd0 : 0xffffff8004d776f3 mach_kernel : _mp_cpus_call_cpu_init + 0x3e3
0xffffff8df742de40 : 0xffffff8004d77278 mach_kernel : _cpu_signal_handler + 0x3c8
0xffffff8df742df50 : 0xffffff7f874b6ad3 com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform : __ZN31AppleACPICPUInterruptController15handleInterruptEPvP9IOServicei + 0x6b
0xffffff8df742df70 : 0xffffff8004d6d873 mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x153
0xffffff8df742dfd0 : 0xffffff8004c012d6 mach_kernel : _hndl_allintrs + 0x126
0xffffff8df742ddd0 : 0xffffff8004d776f3 mach_kernel : _mp_cpus_call_cpu_init + 0x3e3
0xffffff8df742de40 : 0xffffff8004d77278 mach_kernel : _cpu_signal_handler + 0x3c8
0xffffff8df742df50 : 0xffffff7f874b6ad3 com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform : __ZN31AppleACPICPUInterruptController15handleInterruptEPvP9IOServicei + 0x6b
0xffffff8df742df70 : 0xffffff8004d6d873 mach_kernel : _interrupt + 0x153
    Backtrace continues...
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform(6.1)[C03BFA43-0B1C-3065-BAD7-EAD7EE152F84]@0xffffff7f874a6000->0xffffff7f87541fff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[8794C760-FDD9-3664-ADED-4A9BBEC6E517]@0xffffff7f861d5000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[194AA5A0-E772-3515-A771-6DC41FB9A361]@0xffffff7f85494000
            dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleSMC(3.1.9)[C0EDA8D1-B854-3BE7-A2AF-DF27F893962D]@0xffffff7f861de000
If you guys would do the same and post the info here that would help!

I'll debug tomorrow.
 
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