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so was having a couple of freezes a day since HS updating. And read through this thread, trying to piece it together.
I'm running SSD for OS drive, Home folder on it too, then another few standard HDs on it too, no drives permitted to sleep. I swapped my Sata cables around so that the boot drive was disk1 and all's been running well since (a few days now – so not 100% sure yet... )

I can only guess why, but the new APFS things and the EFI them look like they may need priority over other HDs. And they should reply first as they're quicker.
Anyways hope this helps someone as this forum has gotten me outta so many jams over so long.


Lets have another theory, shall we? :)

I'm counting 5 days of uptime so far - and what did I change - I did move my SSD to another port, served by different controller. It is still SATA3, but no hangs anymore. In fact, there were couple of hickups, that were looking like it is going to lock-up the same way as before, but (miraculously) the OS was able to recover from that in a matter of seconds.

So there is this one more thing to try - move your SSD (*) to another port, by another controller - if possible, and observe.

(*) yes I did intentionally skip the "if you have SSD" cause I would just love to believe that our trouble with HS is caused by SSD.. Anyone with this problem, but not having SSD, now it is time to come out! ;)

(**) my board has 3 different types of SATA ports, first group is handled by ICH and that is just SATA2, then there is Marvell 9128 which is apparently SATA3 and also JMB362 for eSATA group. Now this is quite odd and confusing, cause I did originally had SSD hooked on to 9128, and now on something else which is detected in HS as "Generic AHCI", and "Link speed: 6 Gigabit" - and that one is different from "5 Series Chipset" that I also have listed there. I get 370+ MB/sec on reading, which is clearly more than sata2 link speed.. but neither ICH or JMB362 should be able to do more than SATA2.


UPDATE:
9 days uptime, so it is definitively SATA port issue. Maybe SATA3 related, maybe specific controller, but works for me!
 

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okay so that's definitely it. OS Drive needs to be at Sata1 on MB (or possibly SSD Drive if home folder on it)
 
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Bumping this thread because I'm thinking about updating to Mojave.

My system has been rock solid after downgrading to Sierra, but because some of my favorite apps are starting to drop Sierra support, it seems like I'll be forced to upgrade sooner or later.

Folks who have had issues with random freezes on HS, have they persisted after upgrading to Mojave?
 
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"Reboot and Selection proper Boot Device" in boot Clover, fix it only option EFI (ESP) , when you do the installation on a USB flash drive and the same when, at the end of the Mojave installation, you need to select this option for the EFI to boot. In case anyone encounters this problem.
 

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Having the same thing here. About 2-3 times a day while I'm using the machine it will just freeze. Any audio playing will cut out, and my mouse will be frozen in place. It requires a hard reset to bring it back.

I have a hunch that it might be related to USB but I'm not sure. It doesn't seem to happen when it's left on its own. It can be processing something all night long without any issues, but when I'm in the middle of using it is when it will happen.

Would love to get to the bottom of it.

I'm on MacOS 10.13.6
 
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Just letting you all know that I'm in the same boat, High Sierra is not stable on my main machine. I get various UI freezes. I'm on macOs 10.13.6 with Security Update 2018-003. Bare minimum of kexts. I've had 4 freezes today, at least, one of which occurred within a minute or two of rebooting after the previous one.
 
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I believe I now have High Sierra stable on my Series 5 motherboard. There were multiple causes of my instability and I am writing up an install guide for this MB. In short the fixes are:
  • Select MacPro5,1 as the system, as iMac14,2 results in High Sierra trying to perform power management this MB/CPU is not capable of.
  • Apply the ICH10 fix for Random freeze HDD led on as the P55 chipset has an ICH10 embedded in it.
  • Audit your programs, especially any autostart ones, for any that are not being updated for Mojave. I had one (DragThing) that resulted in an occasional Pinwheel of Death.
  • Apply the [Solved] High Sierra - need CMOS reset after sleep to fix the CMOS corruption on sleep fix.
The P55 used to be simpler to run as a Hackintosh, but with the above fixes I believe it is stable.
 
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Random KP still occurs after 2 weeks.

*** Panic Report ***

mp_kdp_enter(): 68718428159, 1, 36 TIMED-OUT WAITING FOR NMI-ACK, PROCEEDING

panic(cpu 20 caller 0xffffff800d8b1c99): "waitq deadlock - waitq=0xffffff80da5b5450, cpu=20\n"@/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/xnu/xnu-4570.71.2/osfmk/kern/waitq.c:1825

Backtrace (CPU 20), Frame : Return Address

0xffffffa7b7f3b6c0 : 0xffffff800d86c1c6
0xffffffa7b7f3b710 : 0xffffff800d995274
0xffffffa7b7f3b750 : 0xffffff800d987544
0xffffffa7b7f3b7c0 : 0xffffff800d81e1e0
0xffffffa7b7f3b7e0 : 0xffffff800d86bc3c
0xffffffa7b7f3b910 : 0xffffff800d86b9fc
0xffffffa7b7f3b970 : 0xffffff800d8b1c99
0xffffffa7b7f3ba20 : 0xffffff800d8b210f
0xffffffa7b7f3ba90 : 0xffffff800d8b2878
0xffffffa7b7f3bb30 : 0xffffff800d8b2ca6
0xffffffa7b7f3bbd0 : 0xffffff800d852776
0xffffffa7b7f3bc20 : 0xffffff800d8525df
0xffffffa7b7f3bc60 : 0xffffff800d84ebd7
0xffffffa7b7f3bcb0 : 0xffffff800d871f07
0xffffffa7b7f3bcf0 : 0xffffff7f8e1981ff
0xffffffa7b7f3bd30 : 0xffffff7f8e1ef529
0xffffffa7b7f3bd50 : 0xffffff7f8e2a0da2
0xffffffa7b7f3bda0 : 0xffffff7f8f20879d
0xffffffa7b7f3bdd0 : 0xffffff7f8f229181
0xffffffa7b7f3be20 : 0xffffff7f8e1f5f6c
0xffffffa7b7f3bed0 : 0xffffff800de99785
0xffffffa7b7f3bf30 : 0xffffff800de97ef2
0xffffffa7b7f3bf70 : 0xffffff800de9752c
0xffffffa7b7f3bfa0 : 0xffffff800d81d557

Kernel Extensions in backtrace:

com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb(10.2.9)[47E4E9D1-0359-3BA4-A0A5-9C6821068E4D]@0xffffff7f8e191000->0xffffff7f8e7bdfff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[AEA4C7F5-CCB0-338B-B471-CF28A9792522]@0xffffff7f8e094000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(519.20)[64AB0898-0DF1-32DF-850A-8840C3478439]@0xffffff7f8e175000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(519.20)[0E507098-E375-39B7-9AE2-AFF2C7A5D961]@0xffffff7f8e11f000
dependency: com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl(3.20.13)[55E796DB-EFBA-34DB-8148-E834A4383AD2]@0xffffff7f8e185000
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGP100HalWeb(10.2.9)[DD0C2BBD-3256-3D2D-B131-B9663E11ABFB]@0xffffff7f8f0f0000->0xffffff7f8f287fff
dependency: com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb(10.2.9)[47E4E9D1-0359-3BA4-A0A5-9C6821068E4D]@0xffffff7f8e191000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[AEA4C7F5-CCB0-338B-B471-CF28A9792522]@0xffffff7f8e094000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Boot args: -v darkwake=0

Mac OS version:
17G65

Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 17.7.0: Thu Jun 21 22:53:14 PDT 2018; root:xnu-4570.71.2~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 1AE5ACFD-3B6F-3D74-AD52-31F1430DBC6F
Kernel slide: 0x000000000d600000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff800d800000
__HIB text base: 0xffffff800d700000
System model name: iMacPro1,1 (Mac-7BA5B2D9E42DDD94)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 103111455571553

last loaded kext at 96375505151999: com.logitech.driver.LogiGamingMouseFilter 1 (addr 0xffffff7f9182b000, size 40960)
last unloaded kext at 96468682353577: com.apple.driver.usb.cdc 5.0.0 (addr 0xffffff7f91788000, size 28672)

loaded kexts:
com.nvidia.CUDA 1.1.0
com.paragon-software.filesystems.ntfs 319.2.15
com.radiosilenceapp.nke.filter 2.2
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGP100HalWeb 10.2.9
com.nvidia.web.GeForceWeb 10.2.9
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb 10.2.9
com.driver.LogJoystick 2.0
com.intel.driver.EnergyDriver 2.0
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch 5094
org.hwsensors.driver.GPUSensors 1462
com.insanelymac.AtherosE2200Ethernet 2.2.2
org.hwsensors.driver.ACPISensors 1449
org.rehabman.driver.VoodooTSCSync 1.5.0
org.hwsensors.driver.CPUSensors 1449
as.vit9696.WhateverGreen 1.2.6
as.vit9696.AppleALC 1.3.0
as.vit9696.Lilu 1.3.1
org.netkas.driver.FakeSMC 1449
com.apple.filesystems.smbfs 3.2.3
com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.70
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
com.apple.driver.ApplePlatformEnabler 2.7.0d0
com.apple.driver.AGPM 110.23.37
com.apple.driver.X86PlatformShim 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 281.52
com.apple.AGDCPluginDisplayMetrics 3.20.13
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.6.5
com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHV 1
com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.1
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 6.0.7f10
com.apple.driver.pmtelemetry 1
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPCHPMC 2.0.1
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSlowAdaptiveClocking 4.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleOSXWatchdog 1
com.apple.filesystems.hfs.kext 407.50.6
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache 40
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0
com.apple.AppleSystemPolicy 1.0
com.apple.filesystems.apfs 748.51.0
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 329.50.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 2.1
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.7
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 183
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 8
com.apple.security.quarantine 3
com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 281.52
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 526
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.18d1
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOAVBFamily 680.2
com.apple.plugin.IOgPTPPlugin 680.15
com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController 1.1.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily2 378.26
com.apple.driver.AppleSSE 1.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 211.15
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 11
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 6.0.7f10
com.apple.AppleGPUWrangler 3.20.13
com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl 3.20.13
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 519.20
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 281.52
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 519.20
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 281.52
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 206.5
com.apple.vecLib.kext 1.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSlowAdaptiveClockingFamily 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.X86PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 6.0.0d8
com.apple.driver.usb.IOUSBHostHIDDevice 1.2
com.apple.driver.usb.networking 5.0.0
com.apple.driver.usb.AppleUSBHostCompositeDevice 1.2
com.apple.filesystems.hfs.encodings.kext 1
com.apple.driver.usb.AppleUSBHostPacketFilter 1.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 900.4.1
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 301.40.2
com.apple.iokit.IONVMeFamily 2.1.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 288
com.apple.driver.usb.AppleUSBXHCIPCI 1.2
com.apple.driver.usb.AppleUSBXHCI 1.2
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 2.1
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 2.1
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 2.0.0
com.apple.security.sandbox 300.0
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 480.60.1
com.apple.driver.AppleFDEKeyStore 28.30
com.apple.driver.AppleEffaceableStorage 1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore 2
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTDM 439.70.3
com.apple.driver.AppleMobileFileIntegrity 1.0.5
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageDriver 140.70.2
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 404.30.2
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 404.30.2
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 2.1
com.apple.driver.AppleCredentialManager 1.0
com.apple.driver.KernelRelayHost 1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHostFamily 1.2
com.apple.driver.usb.AppleUSBCommon 1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleBusPowerController 1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSEPManager 1.0.1
com.apple.driver.IOSlaveProcessor 1
com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily 31
com.apple.iokit.IOTimeSyncFamily 680.15
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 3.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.9
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.9
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4
com.apple.kec.pthread 1
com.apple.kec.Libm 1
com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0

NVIDIA 1080Ti * 2, latest Lilu+Whatevergreen and 378 driver. 10.13.6.
Possible solution?

Thanks
 
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