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Haswell GT630 el capitan clover no signal using web drivers

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Hi,

I have an HP Desktop (HP EliteDesk 800 G1 TWR) which has a Q87 chipset and a I5-4690 Haswell processor. It has a 4600 Intel GPU on board, however I have disabled it and used an ASUS GeForce GT 630 4GB.

I have successfully installed and configured El Capitan 10.10.2 on it using clover (had windows before). The SMBIOS I have used is 14,2 (iMac) which seems the closest to my system.

I am facing a problem with the GPU: I tried to install the latest Nvidia Web drivers WebDriver-346.03.04f02.pkg (with clover Boot>nv_disable=1), rebooted and then used (Boot>nvda_drv=1 and removed the nv_disable). The system boots (I use -v) and at some point I get no signal on the monitor. I can connect to the machine via vnc. I have tried all ports DVI/HDMI/VGA without any signal.

While connecting via vnc in the about my mac I get (see screen shot in the attachement)


With nv_disable=1 I get the following:
--
boubis:~ support$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb (10.0.9) 0584C99A-66C6-3916-BD53-D3D980EA3A96 <96 71 69 12 7 5 4 3 1>
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGF100HalWeb (10.0.9) 44D342A7-E8E2-378D-BA00-DF33B56A8F35 <112 12 4 3>
--

With nvda_drv=1 I get:
--
boubis:~ support$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.nvidia.NVDAStartupWeb (10.0.9) 012173D2-0B7B-360E-84E4-C5F7C7AE200D <12 4 3>
com.apple.nvidia.NVDAStartup (10.0.8) C19EEA47-012E-3250-9241-2CD025992416 <12 4 3>
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb (10.0.9) 0584C99A-66C6-3916-BD53-D3D980EA3A96 <90 73 71 12 7 5 4 3 1>
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGF100HalWeb (10.0.9) 44D342A7-E8E2-378D-BA00-DF33B56A8F35 <112 12 4 3>
com.nvidia.web.GeForceWeb (10.0.9) 79ABBFF5-79FC-357D-8317-5422A0AC572D <112 90 72 71 12 7 5 4 3 1>
--

Is my card detected successfully ? If so why it shows like this in the About my Mac? Any help is highly appreciated!!!


Thanks!
 

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Hi,

I have an HP Desktop (HP EliteDesk 800 G1 TWR) which has a Q87 chipset and a I5-4690 Haswell processor. It has a 4600 Intel GPU on board, however I have disabled it and used an ASUS GeForce GT 630 4GB.

I have successfully installed and configured El Capitan 10.10.2 on it using clover (had windows before). The SMBIOS I have used is 14,2 (iMac) which seems the closest to my system.

I am facing a problem with the GPU: I tried to install the latest Nvidia Web drivers WebDriver-346.03.04f02.pkg (with clover Boot>nv_disable=1), rebooted and then used (Boot>nvda_drv=1 and removed the nv_disable). The system boots (I use -v) and at some point I get no signal on the monitor. I can connect to the machine via vnc. I have tried all ports DVI/HDMI/VGA without any signal.

While connecting via vnc in the about my mac I get (see screen shot in the attachement)


With nv_disable=1 I get the following:
--
boubis:~ support$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb (10.0.9) 0584C99A-66C6-3916-BD53-D3D980EA3A96 <96 71 69 12 7 5 4 3 1>
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGF100HalWeb (10.0.9) 44D342A7-E8E2-378D-BA00-DF33B56A8F35 <112 12 4 3>
--

With nvda_drv=1 I get:
--
boubis:~ support$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.nvidia.NVDAStartupWeb (10.0.9) 012173D2-0B7B-360E-84E4-C5F7C7AE200D <12 4 3>
com.apple.nvidia.NVDAStartup (10.0.8) C19EEA47-012E-3250-9241-2CD025992416 <12 4 3>
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb (10.0.9) 0584C99A-66C6-3916-BD53-D3D980EA3A96 <90 73 71 12 7 5 4 3 1>
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGF100HalWeb (10.0.9) 44D342A7-E8E2-378D-BA00-DF33B56A8F35 <112 12 4 3>
com.nvidia.web.GeForceWeb (10.0.9) 79ABBFF5-79FC-357D-8317-5422A0AC572D <112 90 72 71 12 7 5 4 3 1>
--

Is my card detected successfully ? If so why it shows like this in the About my Mac? Any help is highly appreciated!!!


Thanks!
Inject/NVidia/False
 
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Hi Slim.Jim,

Yes I have nvidia injection to false. This is the relevant part of my config.plist:
--
<key>Graphics</key>
<dict>
<key>Inject</key>
<dict>
<key>ATI</key>
<false/>
<key>Intel</key>
<false/>
<key>NVidia</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>NvidiaSingle</key>
<false/>
</dict>
--

I attach my config.plist .

Thanks for your help!
 

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Hi Slim.Jim,

Yes I have nvidia injection to false. This is the relevant part of my config.plist:
--
<key>Graphics</key>
<dict>
<key>Inject</key>
<dict>
<key>ATI</key>
<false/>
<key>Intel</key>
<false/>
<key>NVidia</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>NvidiaSingle</key>
<false/>
</dict>
--

I attach my config.plist .

Thanks for your help!
what happens if you boot using the default OS X drivers by removing the nvda_drv=1 boot flag?
 
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Hi Slim.Jim,

Thanks again for your answer

So I did the following tests:

1. NO Web Driver, clover Graphics>Inject NVIDIA, nvda_drv=0, gives me output on DVI and HDMI
$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAResman (10.0.8)
com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAGF100Hal (10.0.8)
About My Mac shows: Asus GeForce GT 630 2048 MB (my card is 4GB)
CineBench shows 22fps

2. WITH Web Driver, clover Graphics>Inject NVIDIA, nvda_drv=1, gives me output on DVI and HDMI
$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.nvidia.NVDAStartupWeb (10.0.9)
com.apple.nvidia.NVDAStartup (10.0.8)
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb (10.0.9)
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGF100HalWeb (10.0.9)
com.nvidia.web.GeForceWeb (10.0.9)
About My Mac shows: Asus GeForce GT 630 2048 MB (my card is 4GB)
CineBench shows 24fps

3. WITH Web Driver, No Inject NVIDIA, nvda_drv=1, gives me NO output on DVI and HDMI
$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.nvidia.NVDAStartupWeb (10.0.9)
com.apple.nvidia.NVDAStartup (10.0.8)
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb (10.0.9)
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGF100HalWeb (10.0.9)
com.nvidia.web.GeForceWeb (10.0.9)
About My Mac shows: NVIDIA Chip Model 256 MB
CineBench fails to run for some reason.

So how do I figure out what is right and what is wrong? I do not know what exactly to expect for the acceleration. So if CineBench is about the same for all configurations does it make sense to use the NVidia Web Drivers at all?

My home machine with a radeon HD 6870, cinebench gives me 72fps. This card is many many years old. Can the GT630 be that bad?

Thanks again
 

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Hi Slim.Jim,

Thanks again for your answer

So I did the following tests:

1. NO Web Driver, clover Graphics>Inject NVIDIA, nvda_drv=0, gives me output on DVI and HDMI
$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAResman (10.0.8)
com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAGF100Hal (10.0.8)
About My Mac shows: Asus GeForce GT 630 2048 MB (my card is 4GB)
CineBench shows 22fps

2. WITH Web Driver, clover Graphics>Inject NVIDIA, nvda_drv=1, gives me output on DVI and HDMI
$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.nvidia.NVDAStartupWeb (10.0.9)
com.apple.nvidia.NVDAStartup (10.0.8)
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb (10.0.9)
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGF100HalWeb (10.0.9)
com.nvidia.web.GeForceWeb (10.0.9)
About My Mac shows: Asus GeForce GT 630 2048 MB (my card is 4GB)
CineBench shows 24fps

3. WITH Web Driver, No Inject NVIDIA, nvda_drv=1, gives me NO output on DVI and HDMI
$ kextstat | grep -i nvi
com.nvidia.NVDAStartupWeb (10.0.9)
com.apple.nvidia.NVDAStartup (10.0.8)
com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb (10.0.9)
com.nvidia.web.NVDAGF100HalWeb (10.0.9)
com.nvidia.web.GeForceWeb (10.0.9)
About My Mac shows: NVIDIA Chip Model 256 MB
CineBench fails to run for some reason.

So how do I figure out what is right and what is wrong? I do not know what exactly to expect for the acceleration. So if CineBench is about the same for all configurations does it make sense to use the NVidia Web Drivers at all?

My home machine with a radeon HD 6870, cinebench gives me 72fps. This card is many many years old. Can the GT630 be that bad?

Thanks again
Ok, so for your card you need Inject/NVidia/True. I am not sure why it is only reporting 2GB VRAM though.

As far as the drivers, your card is natively supported so using the web drivers will likely provide little benefit, maybe a 5-10% increase in performance.

The GT 630 is a low end card. See this for comparisons: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
 
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Hi!

Thanks for the GPU Hierarchy, really really helpful.

So for the time being I use clover's Inject/NVidia and nothing else and I get support from OSX's internal kexts.

However this does not solves the problem with the Web Drivers. How can I proceed debugging it?

Thanks again!
 

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Hi!

Thanks for the GPU Hierarchy, really really helpful.

So for the time being I use clover's Inject/NVidia and nothing else and I get support from OSX's internal kexts.

However this does not solves the problem with the Web Drivers. How can I proceed debugging it?

Thanks again!
What problem are you having with them? Your test above showed they worked and provided a 10% increase in performance as I said it would.
 
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in every guide I have seen online, it says to Inject/Nvidia/false in order to use the Nvidia Web Drivers. This is not the case in my configuration. Can I prove somehow that I am fully using the Web Drivers (and not a subset due to the injection?). Is there a site with reference performance for GPus?

Thanks again for your great help!!!!
 

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in every guide I have seen online, it says to Inject/Nvidia/false in order to use the Nvidia Web Drivers. This is not the case in my configuration. Can I prove somehow that I am fully using the Web Drivers (and not a subset due to the injection?). Is there a site with reference performance for GPus?

Thanks again for your great help!!!!
Inject/NVidia/False is independent of the web drivers. Some GPUs just need it to work (some 600 series and anything earlier then them). Using the flag nvda_drv=1 is what you need to use the web drivers.
 
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