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Gigabyte Z490 Vision D (Thunderbolt 3) + i5-10400 + AMD RX 580

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Tossing out a comment here that may fly in the face of over clocker mentality. I just installed a Noctua CPU cooler that knocked my video transcoding temp down from 100C (pretty sure it was thermal limiting) to about 85C. I dropped my base clock down from 100mhz to 95mhz, and that number dropped to 70C. I barely notice a difference in performance, but the CPU watts dissipation and general temps seem WAY cooler. I feel like my system longevity will be far better at those temps. If I had gone for the biggest Noctua cooler I could stuff in the case, or added a second fan, this might not be an issue. But it's a worthwhile tradeoff for my requirements. I'm not sure how many people realize how such a tiny change in clock can reduce thermal loads this much.
 

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Will you buy it!?
This is indeed the big question, and a difficult one to answer. My early personal thoughts (subject to change as I read more independent reviews):
  • It appears to have leading edge performance although it's being compared to AMD's nearly 1-year old design.
  • But power consumption is still an issue, and early look from Hardware Canucks, for example, suggests that Intel's TDP numbers should not be taken at face value, and a beefy cooler is necessary.
  • We don't know how macOS will fare on the CPU.
    • macOS lacks the ability to schedule tasks effectively between P-core and E-cores on this processor
    • Disabling E-cores might improve overall performance in macOS if BIOS provides an option to disable E-cores
    • Z690 platform might present unique challenges
But the big strategic question is:
  • Knowing that Apple Silicon transition is well underway and all Macs will sport Apple Silicon chips by end of next year, does it make sense to build an Intel-based Hackintosh today?
  • The answer might still be yes, because we should continue to see macOS supported on Intel for a handful of years. So if Apple's own desktop offerings are as expensive as the new 14" and 16" laptops would lead us to believe, then an Intel-based Hackintosh could still make sense.
    • Assuming we can get macOS running on Alder Lake and Z690, it could provide a cheaper but still highly competitive alternative.
My own inclination at this particular time is to wait and see. I'll let others do the pioneering work on this platform and study its feasibility as a Hackintosh. Based on that I'll decide what to do.
 
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After update to Monterey 12.0.1 my Bluetooth crashed (IntelBluetoothFirmware). I used fresh BlueToolFixup, but it didn't help.
I tried to reboot with clean NVRAM / deleted Bluetooth plist - it did not help.
Then I did some magic and now it works:
1. turn on/off Bluetooth (it freezes)
2. open terminal -> enter `pgrep bluetooth | xargs sudo kill`
3. enter `bluetoothd`
4. turn on/off bluetooth
Then after few moments I got kernel panic, and, after reboot my Bluetooth works without any problem.
Hi, i also have no BT working since Monterey 12.0.1,
tried your method but no luck, i also tried to update IntelBluetoothFirmware.kext to v2.0.1 but same result :(
the System pref BT panel is not crashing but nothing happen trying to switch BT on and same for Menu bar icon.

EDIT: BT control panel is finally crashing after a while
 

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Hi, i also have no BT working since Monterey 12.0.1,
tried your method but no luck, i also tried to update IntelBluetoothFirmware.kext to v2.0.1 but same result :(
the System pref BT panel is not crashing but nothing happen trying to switch BT on and same for Menu bar icon.

EDIT: BT control panel is finally crashing after a while
I tried two BrcmPatchRAM releases. It is strange that there are two 2.6.1 versions from different repo with different size.

And only this one works for me.
 
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  • Knowing that Apple Silicon transition is well underway and all Macs will sport Apple Silicon chips by end of next year, does it make sense to build an Intel-based Hackintosh today?
  • The answer might still be yes, because we should continue to see macOS supported on Intel for a handful of years. So if Apple's own desktop offerings are as expensive as the new 14" and 16" laptops would lead us to believe, then an Intel-based Hackintosh could still make sense.
    • Assuming we can get macOS running on Alder Lake and Z690, it could provide a cheaper but still highly competitive alternative.
My own inclination at this particular time is to wait and see. I'll let others do the pioneering work on this platform and study its feasibility as a Hackintosh. Based on that I'll decide what to do.
I basically agree with you... the only thing I fear of is ... storage... Hackintosh has lot of storage possibilities under his sleeves and having an Apple desktop machine with everything (one single nvme disk) soldered and nothing else makes me worry a lot... I don't want to lose access my HDD/SSD disks locally and this is unlike to happen...
 

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Hackintosh has lot of storage possibilities under his sleeves and having an Apple desktop machine with everything (one single nvme disk) soldered and nothing else makes me worry a lot...
I wouldn't worry about the Apple NVMe SSDs. I'm sure they are buying the very best and fastest available. They should have good endurance and last for the life of the Mac Laptop. If they were to cut corners with cheaper drives they would pay the price in warranty claims later on. They are much smarter than that. You will be backing up that NVMe boot drive regularly so nothing really to worry about. For extra storage use the TH4 ports with external drives.

This is the disk speed results on the 1 TB NVMe drive in a 14" M1 Pro. Nearly 7GB/s write speeds. Never seen that before.

Screen Shot 10.jpg
 
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I tried two BrcmPatchRAM releases. It is strange that there are two 2.6.1 versions from different repo with different size.

And only this one works for me.
Thanks @eos1d3
working fine with IntelBluetoothFirmware v2.0.1 and BluetoothFixup 2.6.1 you provided :thumbup:
The problem was also i was booting from my connected backup drive EFI (boot order changed after Reset NVRAM):rolleyes:
I've just realized that the Bootstrap-Opencore option to preserve boot order is gone with new version.

EDIT: BT is still disconnecting and crashing after switching it On/Off :(
 
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This is indeed the big question, and a difficult one to answer. My early personal thoughts (subject to change as I read more independent reviews):
  • It appears to have leading edge performance although it's being compared to AMD's nearly 1-year old design.
  • But power consumption is still an issue, and early look from Hardware Canucks, for example, suggests that Intel's TDP numbers should not be taken at face value, and a beefy cooler is necessary.
  • We don't know how macOS will fare on the CPU.
    • macOS lacks the ability to schedule tasks effectively between P-core and E-cores on this processor
    • Disabling E-cores might improve overall performance in macOS if BIOS provides an option to disable E-cores
    • Z690 platform might present unique challenges
But the big strategic question is:
  • Knowing that Apple Silicon transition is well underway and all Macs will sport Apple Silicon chips by end of next year, does it make sense to build an Intel-based Hackintosh today?
  • The answer might still be yes, because we should continue to see macOS supported on Intel for a handful of years. So if Apple's own desktop offerings are as expensive as the new 14" and 16" laptops would lead us to believe, then an Intel-based Hackintosh could still make sense.
    • Assuming we can get macOS running on Alder Lake and Z690, it could provide a cheaper but still highly competitive alternative.
My own inclination at this particular time is to wait and see. I'll let others do the pioneering work on this platform and study its feasibility as a Hackintosh. Based on that I'll decide what to do.
If rumors are true, by next September/October when Apple is likely to release the details of its new Macs (if going off of this year's October event means anything), Intel Raptor Lake might be out or close to coming out. It's supposed to increase IPC over Alder Lake's Golden Cove, and double the E-cores, for upto 8P + 16E => 24 Cores / 32 Threads.

Might be best to take a wait and see approach and learn from others' experience for real with Intel 12th gen and above.

But I'm glad to see the platform improvements to z690, with x8 pcie 4.0 lanes from the chipset, pcie5.0, ddr5, and on the chipset: upto 12 pcie4.0 lanes and upto 16 pcie3.0 lanes. A very solid upgrade from what we've been seeing since z390+.
 
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I basically agree with you... the only thing I fear of is ... storage... Hackintosh has lot of storage possibilities under his sleeves and having an Apple desktop machine with everything (one single nvme disk) soldered and nothing else makes me worry a lot... I don't want to lose access my HDD/SSD disks locally and this is unlike to happen...
The current Mac Pro has NVMe slots so I hope the replacement models (both small form factor and large) also contain NVMe slots. I would also expect DIMM slots, but most likely they won’t contain internal 3.5” HDD bays. As much as I like the idea of internal SATA HDDs for large media libraries (I use 8TB internal HDD), I think we will have to switch to external storage arrays. They can definitely be connected directly (Direct Attached Storage).
 
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