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Gigabyte Z490 Vision D (Thunderbolt 3) + i5-10400 + AMD RX 580

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Hey planning upgrade to Monterey macos. Have same build, any tips or warnings before that?
Also, is there any information about RX 6600 XT GPU support on new OS?
What model identifier is best to use? Currently on Big Sur I use iMac20,2
By the way, I saw that Intel WiFi card support got better, does this offers native Wi-Fi on board activity?
 
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Let's assume for a moment that bootable backups are no longer an option and we have (a) many third-party licensed applications, (b) many third-party licensed plug-ins, (c) lots of project files, data files, etc.

We know that:
  • macOS system files are installed in their own APFS sealed volume.
  • All of our applications, plug-ins, project files, data files, etc. are stored on the "data" volume.
We can:
  • Make full and incremental backups of the "data" volume freely.
    • Understandably, this is the 'stuff' that's most important to us.
In the event of a system crash or other major or minor disaster:
  • We can reformat the internal SSD and reinstall macOS from scratch.
  • We can then clone our backed-up "data" volume to the internal "data" volume that is located in the same volume groupas the newly installed macOS.
    • Question 1: Is this viable?
    • Question 2: If not viable, then we can clone our backed-up data volume to a new APFS volume created on the internal SSD.
  • We can then go to System Preferences --> Users & Groups --> Advanced and point our home directory to the restored data volume.
So total recovery time would be:
  • Time to install macOS from scratch
  • Time to clone backup "data" volume to new internal data volume
Does anyone see a technical glitch in this scenario?

Wow. You are really stuck on this. Yes, there is a glitch. Its the time to do that versus booting a bootable disk. I already went through a scenario. What more do you want?
 

CaseySJ

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I am installing Monterey right now and hope the new OS will resolve the long boot time issue. I was on Samsung 970 EVO (the not plus version) , but I switched to the Western Digital SN550. The boot time fluctuate a lot on SN 550. Sometimes it takes less than 20 seconds to boot and sometimes takes around 90 seconds to boot. @manfriday Does your sidecar work? What config are you running on? Did enable internal graphics in the BIOS? Please let me know and thank you for sharing!
This is worth doing:
  • In Terminal, type:
Bash:
log show --last boot | grep "trims took"
  • Give it a few seconds to run then press CTRL-C to stop.
  • Post the output.
Here's the result from my Z490 Vision D with release version of Monterey:
Code:
kernel: (apfs) spaceman_scan_free_blocks:3153: disk3 scan took 1.913441 s, trims took 1.786507 s
kernel: (apfs) spaceman_scan_free_blocks:3153: disk2 scan took 2.299866 s, trims took 2.262432 s
Note that both operations took less than 3 seconds.
 

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Wow. You are really stuck on this. Yes, there is a glitch. Its the time to do that versus booting a bootable disk. I already went through a scenario. What more do you want?
Read it again please.
 

CaseySJ

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Hey planning upgrade to Monterey macos. Have same build, any tips or warnings before that?
Also, is there any information about RX 6600 XT GPU support on new OS?
What model identifier is best to use? Currently on Big Sur I use iMac20,2
By the way, I saw that Intel WiFi card support got better, does this offers native Wi-Fi on board activity?
Some words of caution:
  • Make a full bootable backup! No excuses. ;)
  • If Big Sur is installed on a Samsung NVME SSD, consider delaying the upgrade to Monterey because your boot times could increase by a couple of minutes.
  • Intel I-225V 2.5GbE port does not work in Monterey. The other Ethernet port is okay.
  • No support for AMD RX 6600XT.
  • iMac20,2 is okay to use.
  • If using Intel WiFi/Bluetooth it will be necessary to use new BlueToolFixup.kext. Click here for link.
 
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CaseySJ

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** Experiencing Slow Boot Times in Monterey? **

Please try this and report your results:
  • In Terminal, type:
Bash:
log show --last boot | grep "trims took"
  • Give it a few seconds to run then press CTRL-C to stop.
  • Post the output.
Here's the result from my Z490 Vision D with release version of Monterey:
Code:
kernel: (apfs) spaceman_scan_free_blocks:3153: disk3 scan took 1.913441 s, trims took 1.786507 s
kernel: (apfs) spaceman_scan_free_blocks:3153: disk2 scan took 2.299866 s, trims took 2.262432 s
Note that both operations took less than 3 seconds.
 

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That's quite a cool device. I've seen them, considered one, but never taken the plunge. I guess if they do a sector-by-sector, bit-by-bit copy then even copy-protected files can be cloned disk to disk. True, this is something more likely to be useful for Optical Disks, but still ... Used as a back-up cloner, what a great idea. And if you have any spare hard-disks lying around (I have a few!) cheaper than paying for cloning software, long term. :wave:
 

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Yes, I have one like that but I'm guessing that there is something similar for SSDs now.

Stick the SSDs in adaptors? I have some 2.5" to 3.5" for SATA devices....
 
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