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Are you using the PCIe 4.0 version of Sabrent Rocket?
Regarding issues with Windows, I generally ask people to search for answers on Google. This thread is principally about macOS.

My ADATA, Sabrent, and Silicon Power NVMe SSDs are still well above 95% (most are between 99%-100%) even after months of use. A Hackintosh per se does not shorten the life of an SSD. Other factors may be involved such as TRIM Support. We should look at System Information --> NVMExpress to check if TRIM Support is Yes or No.

A Hackintosh might actually wear a Samsung NVME out, at least. Apparently the TRIM support for that doesn't work as expected despite being listed as Yes.

I and several others have noticed they run hotter than they should on macOS, and this OC build guide describes why.

If macOS is not handling TRIM or the controller properly, and it runs hotter, it might wear it out faster.

I switched to a Sabrent Rocket 4.0 for these reasons. I figure even though I've ruled out the 970 Evo Plus as the faulty device on my machine, might as well trade for the Sabrent Rocket 4.0 now before the 980 comes out (which will also have a controller macOS probably doesn't like) and lowers the value of the 970. It runs a lot cooler and if/when I do a PCI 4 build (looking forward to Z590 Vision D build with Rocket Lake that actually supports PCI 4) it will get a speed boost the 970 wouldn't.
 
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Very good.
  • If you unplug the Kraken from the USB header, does the system enter sleep and remain asleep?
  • If system still fails to sleep, the (a) reconnect the Kraken, but (b) remove the Fenvi FV-T919 and check sleep again.
Be sure to shutdown the system and flip power switch on PSU to OFF whenever disconnecting or attaching components to the motherboard.

So I just home and tried the following. When all the USB headers are plugged in and I put the system to sleep, monitor goes to sleep and after a few seconds the computer completely turns off. Tried removing the Kraken, removed the Fenvi, and got the same results.

I also installed Windows and when I set it to sleep the same thing is happening. Set it to sleep and it completely turns off.
 
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On Vision G, the latest BIOS is F6. I believe only F6 has CFG-Lock disabled.

Thank you very much. Your suggestion FIXED the issue I was facing with. This reply is being written from my new hack installed to Gigabyte Z490 Vision G.

Best regards,
CSAT
 
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Hello Rob,

ProTools Version 20.5.0.207, (2020.R1.0).
Logic 10.5.1
Luna 1.0.8

Catalina: 10.15.16

Three rooms and four systems operational. All Vision D Z490.
We previously used three Z390 builds and have zero regrets
migrating to the Z490 chipset.

The 390 Designare and processors are now retired in the Z490 boxes.

We use a few UA Apollo 8x and 8xP interfaces with UA Octo’s with these
Systems daily.


I am confident you will be pleased with. We are.


Tony…..

10.15.16? Did you mean 10.15.6? I only ask because I ordered my 10900K last night along with my Vision D and plan on building it next week and the week after. I use Pro Tools as well and the Avid website says that Pro Tools 2020.5 is only compatible up to 10.15.5. I have the files for both versions of macOS ready and would love to clarify which if you've been fine running the latest version of macOS with Pro Tools

In case it matters the specs will be:
10900k
Z490 Vision D
32GB 3466MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB
Gigabyte Gaming OC 5700XT
Kraken X73 AIO
1TB Intel 660p boot drive
500GB Samsung 850 EVO for PT session files (In current system)
3TB Seagate Barracuda for mas storage (In current system)
I'm also carrying over the fenvi and the PSU from my current hackintosh
Entho Evolve X case

I currently use and 2nd gen Focusrite 18i8 but I'm looking at the new Quantum 2626 with thunderbolt 3 once this system is up and running
 

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A Hackintosh might actually wear a Samsung NVME out, at least. Apparently the TRIM support for that doesn't work as expected despite being listed as Yes.

I and several others have noticed they run hotter than they should on macOS, and this OC build guide describes why.

If macOS is not handling TRIM or the controller properly, and it runs hotter, it might wear it out faster.

I switched to a Sabrent Rocket 4.0 for these reasons. I figure even though I've ruled out the 970 Evo Plus as the faulty device on my machine, might as well trade for the Sabrent Rocket 4.0 now before the 980 comes out (which will also have a controller macOS probably doesn't like) and lowers the value of the 970. It runs a lot cooler and if/when I do a PCI 4 build (looking forward to Z590 Vision D build with Rocket Lake that actually supports PCI 4) it will get a speed boost the 970 wouldn't.
Good to know. I will link this to Post 1. I have never purchased a Samsung NVMe SSD only due to their significantly higher cost. But now we also have a functional reason to avoid those drives (i.e. macOS issues with Phoenix controller).
 
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This is what I need to hear.
I think I shall start getting things on order and get cracking into this Hackintosh game.
I assume you have used OC 0.5.9 or 0.6.0?
You may get the odd query at some point

Thanks again for your response

Rob


@SpinRD,
We are all OC 0.6.0
 

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So I just home and tried the following. When all the USB headers are plugged in and I put the system to sleep, monitor goes to sleep and after a few seconds the computer completely turns off. Tried removing the Kraken, removed the Fenvi, and got the same results.

I also installed Windows and when I set it to sleep the same thing is happening. Set it to sleep and it completely turns off.
When configuring BIOS parameters, did you start with Save & Exit --> Load Optimized Defaults?
 
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10.15.16? Did you mean 10.15.6? I only ask because I ordered my 10900K last night along with my Vision D and plan on building it next week and the week after. I use Pro Tools as well and the Avid website says that Pro Tools 2020.5 is only compatible up to 10.15.5. I have the files for both versions of macOS ready and would love to clarify which if you've been fine running the latest version of macOS with Pro Tools

In case it matters the specs will be:
10900k
Z490 Vision D
32GB 3466MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB
Gigabyte Gaming OC 5700XT
Kraken X73 AIO
1TB Intel 660p boot drive
500GB Samsung 850 EVO for PT session files (In current system)
3TB Seagate Barracuda for mas storage (In current system)
I'm also carrying over the fenvi and the PSU from my current hackintosh
Entho Evolve X case

I currently use and 2nd gen Focusrite 18i8 but I'm looking at the new Quantum 2626 with thunderbolt 3 once this system is up and running


@GMoney022 I stand corrected.
It is 10.15.6. (I have edited the response to reflect the correct OS version. Thank you.)

We have not implemented the latest macOS Catalina 10.15.6 Supplemental Update.

We are running PT 2020.5.

My apologies for the typo.

Tony
 
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Good to know. I will link this to Post 1. I have never purchased a Samsung NVMe SSD only due to their significantly higher cost. But now we also have a functional reason to avoid those drives (i.e. macOS issues with Phoenix controller).

Interesting. I have a Samsung 970 Evo Plus that came with the 2B2Q firmware. So none of that crashing that occurred with the original firmware.

Temps seem fine on Mac. I’ve checked temps using HwSensors (using the associated Lilu Plugins) and my drive is usually between 48c to 51c. I don’t know if that is high or not, but temps are roughly in the same range in windows as well.

Any comment on what ‘normal temps’ for NVME SSDs should be?

Trim was enabled by default in Mac.
 

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Interesting. I have a Samsung 970 Evo Plus that came with the 2B2Q firmware. So none of that crashing that occurred with the original firmware.

Temps seem fine on Mac. I’ve checked temps using HwSensors (using the associated Lilu Plugins) and my drive is usually between 48c to 51c. I don’t know if that is high or not, but temps are roughly in the same range in windows as well.

Any comment on what ‘normal temps’ for NVME SSDs should be?

Trim was enabled by default in Mac.
48-51C is still okay. My Sabrent Rocket has the best thermal performance, usually operating between 28C and 35C as shown below. My Silicon Power is currently around 46C even though Catalina is booted off the Sabrent Rocket and the Silicon Power is mostly idling.

I should mention that the Sabrent Rocket's M2P slot is currently operating at x2 because there's a PCIe card in the bottom long slot that splits the bandwidth.
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