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Solved > Do the Samsung 970 EVO Plus drives work ? New Firmware Available 2B2QEXM7

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I just realized I ordered a Samsung 860 PRO 512 (not a Plus) from https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07836C6YV/?tag=tonymacx86com-20 - but it's SATA III and not M2. Is M2 required for smoother operation, or am I ok with the SATA version as far as installing/day-to-day use?

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If it’s a standard SSD it will be fine. The Z97 boards have a m.2 slot that only supports up to 10mb/sec so you won’t really be fit from a MVME drive that much. Z170 and up support 32 mb/sec so they see a much better improvement using NVME drives.
 
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If it’s a standard SSD it will be fine. The Z97 boards have a m.2 slot that only supports up to 10mb/sec so you won’t really be fit from a MVME drive that much. Z170 and up support 32 mb/sec so they see a much better improvement using NVME drives.

Cool, thanks. I plan on dropping it into an Asus Z390-I but if they're really similar in terms of performance, I think I'll stick w/ the SATA version. Thanks again!
 
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I have the same problem for my 2nd 970 EVO plus (the first one, who runs macOS, was already with the good firmware), I never achieve to boot on the usb flash drive to do the update process, like if the usb is not bootable by the bios :/
hello dear
the same now happening with me for a new external 500 GB 970 plus i got. were u able to solve the issue?
 
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If it’s a standard SSD it will be fine. The Z97 boards have a m.2 slot that only supports up to 10mb/sec so you won’t really be fit from a MVME drive that much. Z170 and up support 32 mb/sec so they see a much better improvement using NVME drives.

The Z97 boards only support gen 3 x 2 lane PCIE for the M.2 socket. BUT...

You can buy an M.2 PCIE card and get the full benefit of a drive's 3 x 4 PCIE. The boards are inexpensive (mine cost about $15 online) because they don't have any electronics. It's just an M.2 socket and PCIE slot contacts. If you don't have a 4-lane slot available the board works with a 16-lane slot, and probably 8-lane too.

I did that and I am getting full performance from a Hewlett Packard 1TB M.2 NVME. I get about 3 x the real world sequential write performance I got from my previous SATA III. The read performance is similarly fast.

And it boots just fine via Clover, even though my BIOS does not list it as a bootable drive. I simply formatted the drive using Disk Utility, then cloned my boot drive to the M.2 using a commonly available cloning utility.

The HP is *almost* as fast as the 970 Plus, and has a similar MTBF. But it cost half as much.

Side note: my motherboard (see sidebar) shares the PCIE for the built-in M.2 slot with 2 "SATA Express" sockets, which also support standard SATA III. If you use the built-in M.2 socket, you not only won't get full performance from your M.2, but you also lose full use of those two SATA sockets.

If you put your M.2 on a PCIE card instead, you get the full M.2 performance and you also free up those two SATA sockets. That leaves you with a total of 6 native chipset SATA sockets, and 2 additional SATA sockets on the board's added chipset. MacOS sees anything on those last 2 as "external" drives, but you can still boot from them if you want. Just be sure not to "eject" your boot drive!
 
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I have bought recently a SSD Evo Plus from eBay.

In Windows I opened Samsung Magicians to check the firmware, plugged the SSD inside an enclosure with USB 3.0 and got the following results:

Drive: Samsung SSD 970
Serial Numbner: 00000000000000000
Firmware: EXM7
Status: N/A
Temperature: N/A

Theres no option to upgrade the Firmware...

And theres no place where it says "EVO Plus" apart from the SSD sticker... this make me think that perhaps I have been mislead by an eBay seller advert that was selling EVO Plus and the SSD is another model with a EVO Plus sticker...

Does this firmware and results relates my SSD to an Evo Plus SSD?

Is there a way to check this SSD ID?
 
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I opened Samsung Magicians to check the firmware, plugged the SSD inside an enclosure with USB 3.0 and got the following results
Try connecting it internally instead of through a USB port. It may not be reporting all the info when seen as an external drive.
 
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The problem is that I do not have how to connect it internally... the notebook is for M.2. B+M and not M... Perhaps if I install Windows on the drive and make it bootable through USB?

Any ideas how i can do this externally?
 
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if it is external then it is an USB storage not a nvme storage. complete different thing. you could have bought any cheap SSD if you intend to use it over USB only
 
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