CUDA causing kernel panics with Premiere and AE

[delicious]

Hi,

I recently installed the CUDA driver on my otherwise stable 10.13.6 (17G8030) system. As far as I know, Premiere is the only app I use that uses CUDA.

However when I run Premiere and After effects at the same time I'm guaranteed a Kernel panic within 5 minutes:

Anonymous UUID:       0C94F34F-E53C-8159-AABE-EA38170061BF

Mon Sep  9 20:37:04 2019

*** Panic Report ***
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff801f087754): "thread_invoke: preemption_level 1, possible cause: blocking while holding a spinlock, or within interrupt context"@/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/xnu/xnu-4570.71.46/osfmk/kern/sched_prim.c:2231
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffffa3fa63b710 : 0xffffff801f06bf96
0xffffffa3fa63b760 : 0xffffff801f195354
0xffffffa3fa63b7a0 : 0xffffff801f1875e4
0xffffffa3fa63b810 : 0xffffff801f01dfb0
0xffffffa3fa63b830 : 0xffffff801f06ba0c
0xffffffa3fa63b960 : 0xffffff801f06b7cc
0xffffffa3fa63b9c0 : 0xffffff801f087754
0xffffffa3fa63ba40 : 0xffffff801f0865df
0xffffffa3fa63ba90 : 0xffffff801f07b2be
0xffffffa3fa63bad0 : 0xffffff801f0b892c
0xffffffa3fa63bc00 : 0xffffff801f04da46
0xffffffa3fa63bc30 : 0xffffff801f04e633
0xffffffa3fa63bc80 : 0xffffff801f071c12
0xffffffa3fa63bcc0 : 0xffffff7f9f988829
0xffffffa3fa63bd00 : 0xffffff7f9f9dfe55
0xffffffa3fa63bd20 : 0xffffff7f9fa983ca
0xffffffa3fa63bd70 : 0xffffff7f9f9f352a
0xffffffa3fa63bda0 : 0xffffff7fa02be86d
0xffffffa3fa63be10 : 0xffffff7f9f9e7048
0xffffffa3fa63bed0 : 0xffffff801f699765
0xffffffa3fa63bf30 : 0xffffff801f697ed2
0xffffffa3fa63bf70 : 0xffffff801f6974fc
0xffffffa3fa63bfa0 : 0xffffff801f01d557
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb(10.3.3)[4FCFF8C1-FC4C-3849-B4AC-BDA5A591AA67]@0xffffff7f9f981000->0xffffff7f9fff9fff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[9C640A56-0FCC-39B4-B469-31F6ED15228E]@0xffffff7f9f894000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(519.21)[8E0EE518-0D53-38C0-B308-2C6CD9EC5B7B]@0xffffff7f9f965000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(519.21)[E5B53C5D-BF6E-3D72-9091-A80DFE5426C9]@0xffffff7f9f90f000
            dependency: com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl(3.20.16)[163A3487-6927-3191-9A5A-F395956DDF72]@0xffffff7f9f975000
         com.nvidia.web.NVDAGP100HalWeb(10.3.3)[76B91C29-8578-33E2-9C91-A6CB7C5E2C56]@0xffffff7fa0177000->0xffffff7fa031dfff
            dependency: com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb(10.3.3)[4FCFF8C1-FC4C-3849-B4AC-BDA5A591AA67]@0xffffff7f9f981000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[9C640A56-0FCC-39B4-B469-31F6ED15228E]@0xffffff7f9f894000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Boot args: npci=0x2000 dart=0 debug=0x100 -no_compat_check -v

Mac OS version:
17G8030

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 17.7.0: Sun Jun  2 20:31:42 PDT 2019; root:xnu-4570.71.46~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 28E28459-2FD2-36B7-BF74-064CD7B1E5F5
Kernel slide:     0x000000001ee00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff801f000000
__HIB  text base: 0xffffff801ef00000
System model name: iMac18,3 (Mac-BE088AF8C5EB4FA2)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 108018591346
last loaded kext at 13686746689: com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothHIDKeyboard    205.1 (addr 0xffffff7fa252e000, size 16384)
loaded kexts:
(none)

EOF
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Thunderbolt Bus:

Removing CUDA solves the problem, and I can run the system fine without opening Premiere/AE. Wondering if anyone has stability issues with latest CUDA? (OR with latest web drivers)? I'm currently going backwards through the versions to see if there's a stable one.

Any help appreciated!

Thanks.

 

[exeLexx]

I support your problem. I have a panic every 2-3 days randomly with my gtx 780 ti.
BUT! In the Premiere, you can use OpenCL instead of CUDA.
I have not found a solution yet.

 

[beep]

Running badly written drivers result in such issues. You can't do anything unless NVIDIA gets back to work and fixes the drivers.

 

[kgartner]

Just wanted to chime in here and say you're not alone. I'm on 10.13.6 with a Titan Xp and have 2-3 kernel panics every day. They seem to manifest for me when i'm using Quicklook of all things while i've got things like AE, compressor and Chrome open. It's super frustrating and i'm thinking of swapping in an ATI card since i'm getting pretty sick of the instability.

 

[delicious]

I support your problem. I have a panic every 2-3 days randomly with my gtx 780 ti.
BUT! In the Premiere, you can use OpenCL instead of CUDA.
I have not found a solution yet.

Good to see I'm not alone - I have tried OpenCL but that usually gives me the dreaded "Premiere Pro has encountered a serious error" message within 10-15 minutes.

Stuck with Metal for now, nowhere near as fast as CUDA in terms of playback.

2 solutions for Premiere users now - use Windows for editing (fast performance, but have to use Windows) or switch to AMD (pay more for a graphics card that doesn't perform as well as NVIDIA in Premiere).

 

[kgartner]

For what it's worth, I rebuilt my Skylake build yesterday with 10.14.6 and a new AREZ STRIX Vega 64 and it's rock solid so far. I'll take stability over a slight speed gain with Nvidia any day.