Change.org Apple publicly commit to work with Nvidia on drivers for Mac OS 10.14

[vulgo]

as they could indirectly want Nvidia to do a contract with Apple for projects to get everything done by having Nvidia people work with Apple

There's nothing indirect about it, NVIDIA drivers already distributed with macOS, limited set of hardware, limited features. There's no 'value add' in 'pro' products when consumer can buy off the shelf hardware and use it in a 5 year old machine or EGPU enclosure.

 

[beep]

Nothing prevents you from using 3rd party Thunderbolt enclosures with an Nvidia card other than the fact that Nvidia hasn't released any drivers. Once again, Apple has never released Nvidia web drivers, it's all on Nvidia.

I'm not writing about drivers for Mojave but possibility to easily connect Nvidia GPUs using Thunderbolt enclosures in High Sierra.
If it's that easy why people have to modify Apple system files? Installing Web drivers is not enough if system does not let it working.
https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/petitionapple-must-support-nvidia-based-devices-for-egpu/
http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,11654.msg34141.htm
https://github.com/mayankk2308/purge-wrangler

 

[johnnybravo19]

I'm not writing about drivers for Mojave but possibility to easily connect Nvidia GPUs using Thunderbolt enclosures in High Sierra.
If it's that easy why people have to modify Apple system files? Installing Web drivers is not enough if system does not let it working.
https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/petitionapple-must-support-nvidia-based-devices-for-egpu/
http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,11654.msg34141.htm
https://github.com/mayankk2308/purge-wrangler

I agree with you 100%. There's a reason why Nvidia drivers break with each update to macOS. I'm sure it's not Nvidia who is causing the drivers to break with each update Apple releases. Apple doesn't need to change how the graphics run in accordance with the OS with every update they do, but they do for a reason. They clearly don't want Nvidia GPU's used on their system. The only way they could make it clearer would be if they wrote on the thunderbolt 3 ads, "Not compatible with Nvidia GPU's"

 

[pastrychef]

I agree with you 100%. There's a reason why Nvidia drivers break with each update to macOS. I'm sure it's not Nvidia who is causing the drivers to break with each update Apple releases. Apple doesn't need to change how the graphics run in accordance with the OS with every update they do, but they do for a reason. They clearly don't want Nvidia GPU's used on their system. The only way they could make it clearer would be if they wrote on the thunderbolt 3 ads, "Not compatible with Nvidia GPU's"

The reason why Nvidia web drivers break with each new macOS release is because the web drivers check macOS version. Nvidia did this themselves. That's why it was easy to patch and make old versions of the Nvidia web drivers work with newer versions of macOS. This worked until the advent of Metal 2.

 

[yoki]

Apple is going to make computer as small as cellphone, and make more money from your lifestyle.
Just ignore the small number of the pro's, they just making noises not profit!

 

[johnnybravo19]

Apple is going to make computer as small as cellphone, and make more money from your lifestyle.
Just ignore the small number of the pro's, they just making noises not profit!

That's 100% true. The current team at Apple is doing a complete 180 at what Jobs said. Examples of Apple's hypocrisy:

"Apple does not ship junk"
- Look at the Mac Pro, storage on Mac mini, non-user upgradeable storage/ram, butterfly keyboards etc.

"You have to start with the customer experience and work backwards to the technology"
- Customers don't want to spend tons of money for crappy GPU's which are going to be outdated in a year and can't be upgraded without buying a brand new computer.
- Customers don't want to store everything on iCloud in lieu of cold storage.
- Customers don't want to not have SD card slot just so they're incentivized to buy more storage from apple.
- Customers don't want to buy monopolized anti-consumer storage/ram directly from Apple for 3x-7x the cost they'd pay elsewhere.
- Customers don't want to buy a brand new computer with every OS update which cripples the last gen computers useless with increased RAM/storage usage
- Customers don't want to buy a million dongles just for basic necessities like USB/HDMI
- Customers don't want a keyboard which sucks so bad to the point where no one likes it

“If you keep your eye on the profit, you’re going to skimp on the product. But if you focus on making really great products, then the profits will follow.”
- Why is AAPL a publicly traded stock then?
- Why are Apple's products not consumer-friendly anymore?
- Why are Apple's products not user-upgradeable anymore?
- Why doesn't Apple put out the best computers they can, rather than incrementally adding features which are readily available?
- Why does Apple use AMD GPU's when Nvidia is clearly superior in just about every way?


Both Apple and Nvidia need to get their chit together and stop acting like babies. Nvidia lost half it's value, so needs to lower it's ego and start letting Apple use their cards without some sort of exclusive deal they wanted. Nvidia also needs to allow Apple to test their cards before confirming the deals. Apple needs to lower its ego and listen to consumers if it wants long-term consumer retention.