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I dont think you're wrong - but these are export and render machines only, I forgot to mention that - we're less hamstrung if one goes down. I also forgot to mention that we *have* been using an i9 9900 and a Radeon 7 for the last 6 months with no issue. I plan on this getting us through a shorter stint and then I'll re-evaluate.

Even the $2200 builds we have are well out-performing the iMac Pros.
I am just saying as a business owner, I would rather get a loan for my company than deal with custom PCs.

Time is more important than saving money. And time is money in the end.

Is the new Mac Pro "overpriced"? Somewhat, if you are a small production house. But these machines are supposed to last for many years and there is residual value to them and they pay for themselves in the long run.

You can easily get a bunch of base Mac Pros and upgrade them over time. Throw in a Radeon VII and upgrade the CPU/RAM later.

My point being, I have spent hundreds of hours on this thing and see it more as a side hobby thats attached to my daily routines.

Will something go wrong with your machines? Undoubtedly. Will it happen today or tomorrow? Who knows.
 
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I am just saying as a business owner, I would rather get a loan for my company than deal with custom PCs.
Well now we're into business strategy! I actually don't agree that the Mac Pros are very future proof or economical, but not something I'm here to argue.

No one we know in coloring or post production arestill using Macs anymore, unless, again they're still in full-blown production work and $20-$40k is the monthly catering bill - they're all back to windows - ESP for colorists, which, I'm 90% sure is where we'll end up for post and exports by the end of the years - it's a bit of an internal debate as you'd have two sets of production files for Adobe CC.

Nonetheless, I don't necessarily disagree with your thoughts on this - so don't hear it that way.

Def. appreciate the dialogue!
 
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You've been incredibly helpful here! Thanks so much for responding.

I'm the CEO of a 16 person app dev and marketing house... we have a 6 person editing and production team (Stole ALL of them for movie production...)... we're the people apple expects to pay $20-$40k for a sub par Mac Pro - we've struggled since none of our editors want to use windows, our CTO doesn't want to support windows, etc. Sadly, our CTO and his team have no experience with hackintosh - neither do the editors. So I'm in charge of the production crews and getting them what they need to get stuff out the door asap - money *is* and issue, but less so than time - so we can afford several rigs with Radeon vii's in them - however, I dont want to do this again in 6 months, since I've got other things on my plate and spending the holidays building these wasn't really what I wanted for my life :-D

With that said, Ive been building a few heavy-duty, render and export only, editing bays for our 6 person editing team. Everyone else is using a i7 iMacs.

Super not happy about spending time on this, and super not happy about supporting hackintoshes... and super not happy that the future for us sure does look like Windows, etc

TMI - Ive spent about 30 hours building two machines that are equivalent to $10,099 Mac Pros in performance. I would need to make close to $600 an hour for it to no longer be worth my time to build these machines...

I really understand you

I make video edits of weddings
I have one manager who is also an editor and 4 video editors

My hardest problem in the business was the maintenance of computers

So, for everyone, I purchased Macs
For the manager, 8 core iMac Pro
And for the editors 2017 iMac i7

So I don't break my head anymore about computer maintenance

Only for myself I always try the newer and better stuff

This is not necessarily a good thing!

If I were to buy 18 core iMac Pro for myself in 2018 (When I purchased all Macs for my editors)
I would save dozens of hours and thousands of dollars
But I also kinda like it! So it's fine :)
 
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I really understand you

I make video edits of weddings
I have one manager who is also an editor and 4 video editors

My hardest problem in the business was the maintenance of computers

So, for everyone, I purchased Macs
For the manager, 8 core iMac Pro
And for the editors 2017 iMac i7

So I don't break my head anymore about computer maintenance

Only for myself I always try the newer and better stuff

This is not necessarily a good thing!

If I were to buy 18 core iMac Pro for myself in 2018 (When I purchased all Macs for my editors)
I would save dozens of hours and thousands of dollars
But I also kinda like it! So it's fine :)

Exactly, the editors are all using i7 iMacs w/ external GPUs, as editing in 1/8th resolution isn't problematic. We also shoot in codecs that don't require proxies, etc - so the editing is not the problem - it's having people sitting there waiting on something to export that's the problem - So I'm happy to take a flier on a few hackintoshes that we can have sitting there churning.

I **suspect** those will be running windows by EOY :-D as they'd be the only windows machines in the office and if we run into major issues, I'd much make the CTO learn to support two windows machines than to have an entire office w/ them.

I also... kinda like it. Until I don't... then I really don't like it. We'll see where that line falls in 2020.
 
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Exactly, the editors are all using i7 iMacs w/ external GPUs, as editing in 1/8th resolution isn't problematic. We also shoot in codecs that don't require proxies, etc - so the editing is not the problem - it's having people sitting there waiting on something to export that's the problem - So I'm happy to take a flier on a few hackintoshes that we can have sitting there churning.

I **suspect** those will be running windows by EOY :-D as they'd be the only windows machines in the office and if we run into major issues, I'd much make the CTO learn to support two windows machines than to have an entire office w/ them.

I also... kinda like it. Until I don't... then I really don't like it. We'll see where that line falls in 2020.
Good luck to you, and us :)
 
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Good luck to you, and us :)
Yessir! Thanks again for your thoughts and direction. FWIW, I picked up two Radeon VII on Black friday for $320 a piece - I can't find them for less than $450 now, but it seems that the VII price will drop.

The 5770 XT is certainly an interesting proposition since its H.264/5 rendering is significant.
 
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Curious if anyone has Catalina working with a cascade lake x cpu yet? I know some users have had issues with the newer motherboards.
 
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Curious if anyone has Catalina working with a cascade lake x cpu yet? I know some users have had issues with the newer motherboards.
Not yet. The new motherboard suck hard. Couldn't get any of the CLX refresh board to work. I just ordered an "old" Rampage VI Omega because I am tired and those four additional lanes are not worth the pain.

 
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Has anyone been able to fix the small apple logo to big apple logo issue during boot in Catalina and OC?

In Mojave, this was never a problem, the apple logo was always consistent from small to small to login screen.

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These settings are set to ForceGraphics and ForceText with no avail.
 
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Has anyone been able to fix the small apple logo to big apple logo issue during boot in Catalina and OC?

In Mojave, this was never a problem, the apple logo was always consistent from small to small to login screen.

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These settings are set to ForceGraphics and ForceText with no avail.
Sadly : I did try all this afternoon my first boot with OC and without success but with the Apple Logo...:sick::beachball:
 
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