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Here's a great follow up story on that subject-

For Thunderbolt and Lightning, USB-C is very, very frightening
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/10/8181551/thunderbolt-lightning-usb-type-c-new-macbook

USB-C is backed by Intel and consortium of other vendors that sides with USB. Reason why SCSI and Firewire didn't fare so well because Intel does not back the 2 tech and it costs more for vendors to use.

There are already smartphones coming out with USB-C by 3rd quarter this year so I can imagine that Apple went ahead and put out USB-C 1st so the Macbook would have a longer shelf life vs all the other Ultrabooks out there that still have USB 2.0

If I am buying new ext storage I would look for USB-C enclosure. Thunderbolt was nice and expensive.

I do have Thunderbolt devices and I hated how it is implemented on the windows side. There are lots of incompatibility issues due to the security scheme.
 
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Before people get mad about thunderbolt... think about tb and lightning being stepping stones to usb c. I'm sure much of the tech from those show up in usb c.


had 2012 too it worked great. battery made me return it tho. yea man I think its haswell specific. I also had serious wifi problems.. one of the biggest threads right now on apple support is haswel stuttering issues and general bad performance. got it back from apple repair and sold it on eBay. SO GLAD.. couldn't have timed it better..

now the hard part.. what mb to get? I loved my air and I'm thinking about going back.
 
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Why in the world would someone buy a $1299 12" Underpowered MacBook when they could buy a 13" MacBook Pro retina for the same price?

This is just stupidity.

But you know what. Tons of people will buy it. This is the magic of the Apple brand. I just dont get it sometimes.
 

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Well I am a "dyed in the wool" Apple fan.

If I could afford one of these 12" rMB's I would be one of the first in line. I have the first issue 15" rMBP and love it. I drag the rMBP around with me everywhere I go.

The 2 pound 12" rMB would be the one that I would carry around when leaving my home office.


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Well I am a "dyed in the wool" Apple fan.

If I could afford one of these 12" rMB's I would be one of the first in line. I have the first issue 15" rMBP and love it. I drag the rMBP around with me everywhere I go.

The 2 pound 12" rMB would be the one that I would carry around when leaving my home office.


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You know Neil, I am pretty hardened as mac fans go too. Been using/hacking/restoring macs since the 90s. But having owned an 11-inch second-gen air, I can honestly say I'm not ready for such an underpowered laptop.

Maybe it's because I'm a pro user. Last year, i switched out my 2011 11-inch and exchanged it for 2014 15" rMBP. It's amazing.

I gave my 11-inch to mom, but she barely uses it as she has a iPad Mini

I have some serious misgivings about the lack of cooling, and the M-processor too. Sure, it's designed to be a lightweight machine and yes, that's what it is. But it feels like Apple has become so preoccupied with making a machine for every situation that they're at risk of recreating the same confusing lineup we saw when Gil Amelio was in charge.

And that scares me.
 

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"Apple is a sinking ship and my job is to steer that ship in the right direction."

Gil Amelio 1997.

Gil always gets a bad rap for his short term job as Apple CEO
but he did one thing that saved Apple from Oblivion. He chose
to bring Steve back as a consultant (and the NeXT OS) that
would later become OS X. If Gil would have bought the company, Be Inc.
of BeOS founder J.L. Gassee then I don't think Apple would be around today. :|
 
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Personally, I am not too shocked by all the "innovations" in this new MB...
- trackpad not really clicking, OK
- butterfly keyboard keys and edge-to-edge keyboard, fine
- fancy colors, whatever
- less ports, OK, OK...
- USB-C, why not... Thunderbolt is dead, who cares?
- underpowered CPU, as long as it plays youtube videos...

BUT! (and I am surprised not to read anyone complain about that), there is no more magsafe connector... no more magsafe... no magsafe... not safe! In my hands this device needs a shock-proof case just like an iPhone or an iPad otherwise it's gonna end badly

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Why in the world would someone buy a $1299 12" Underpowered MacBook when they could buy a 13" MacBook Pro retina for the same price?

This is just stupidity.

But you know what. Tons of people will buy it. This is the magic of the Apple brand. I just dont get it sometimes.

I find it a bit funny when people see a variety of needs and use-cases as stupidity... these reactions demonstrate an inability to get outside one's own head, perspective, and needs.

I will buy the new Macbook.

Yes, I think it's classic first generation Apple stuff: Overpriced, underpowered-- and filling a specific niche that hasn't (yet) expanded into the mainstream.

I'm typing this on a 6-core, 4.2 Ghz Hackintosh. Plenty of horsepower for my professional photo and video work. Not to mention my professional writing work. I've got about 1.5TB of stills, and who knows how much video. Two SSD, 3 HDD internal. Countless external media. Hooked up to a primary 27" LED Cinema Display.

I have and android phone and an iPad mini2/retina.

My portable needs, not yet fulfilled, include: being able to back up media while traveling using multiple portable SSD/HDD, basic image and video review and processing and organization (not production quality output), writing, correspondence, research; doing written work not at my standing desk, either sin my apartment, or outside, or for those rare times I want to sit in a coffee shop.

I need/want: High res screen, good battery life-- and above all else small size/low weight. The new Macbook delivers all these things to a degree not delivered by any other laptop Apple sells. (For the record, I have no desire to run Windows on my laptop; in the past I've owned a Hackbook eeepc, powerbooks, and currently have an old white Macbook that my gf uses that has dismal battery life and is a giant.)

Powerful CPU really isn't important (though I like it). Battery life around 9 hours is totally fine. One USB port that needs a hub so I can import media while backing up to two drives is no big deal (USB hubs will end up being cheap). Having to run on battery while doing my media transfers doesn't thrill me, but given the battery life... it's a non-issue.

Does that mean I think the Macbook is the best possible solution for my needs? No. But it's the best available right now. Sure, I'd have preferred the current 11 inch case, CPU, I/O, with the new 12 inch screen, same battery life, and perhaps an SD card slot. To me that would have been better than the new Macbook. But for me the current 11 inch MBA screen is a no-go, and the current 13 inch MBA is bigger than I want to carry.

So the current 11 inch MBA is disqualified. The current rMBP 13 is significantly heavier and more bulky for someone whose sole use of the machine is traveling (it's no big deal to transport from desk at home to desk at work... but I do jobs that may require 60 days of traveling thousands of miles/km at a time, and sometimes pretty far-flung/difficult to reach places). Why would I buy the current 13 inch rMBP when its additional I/O and CPU/GPU literally offer me nothing additionally helpful? That computer is woefully underpowered for what I do; that's why I run a 6-core Xeon monster at home...

My iPad would work for short trips, if Apple didn't neuter its ability to have real file system access or plug in portable SSD/HDD. Yes, even jailbroken, even running iFile, even using a powered USB hub with the Camera Connection Kit... using the iPad to facilitate backups isn't a serious solution. Writing using an iPad, even with an external keyboard, isn't a serious solution. General photo review, organization, and basic processing (non-production output) on an iPad isn't a serious solution.

The 13 inch MBP is overkill at a major size/weight penalty for my needs (maybe not yours!; I just recommended that a friend skip the new Macbook and instead get a 13 MBP as his only computer solution). The MBA screen is a no-go (for me).

The new MB is a size/weight/screen winner-- at the cost of power and price. That's what you get for buying the first generation of a product (see: Apple Watch... which I have no desire for). By gen 2 or 3, the MB is going to be significantly more powerful than the current MBA, smaller, better screen, and likely with better I/O (either through additional ports or higher speed, more stable wireless protocols or via cheaper/better/small adaptors). And it will be much cheaper. Remember that the first MBA was a $1700, one-port, underpowered, overpriced, forward looking freak. That subsequently became Apple's best selling model after a few generations, where now the price of entry is $899, it has multiple I/O options, and the power-to-price ratio is far more in the consumer's benefit.

Expect the same.

I will buy the new Macbook. And I'll sell it and follow the upgrade train as the next gen or two come out... paying $200 to $300 per year in loss on each upgrade. It will be worth it. It fits my use case, budget, and needs; this is for work ahead of play. This is a second (or third, or fourth... depending on how you count my iPad/phone/ATV/current MB) machine filling a specific niche.

Stupidity is not being able to step outside one's own landscape to understand that what works or makes sense for one person may not work or make sense for another-- and vice versa.
 

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