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Apple Previews macOS 12 Monterey - Available Fall 2021

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What should a pro (e.g. musical producer) do if a new computer is needed right now?
Go for an Intel Mac Pro 7,1 or wait for... what?
I would build a Gigabyte z390 or z490 (budget pending). These are well documented and the support here is better than any company.

If you want an Apple product I'd wait a moment as the industry catches up to Apple Silicon.
 
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Haswell support is going to end. But I don't want to buy Intel's 14nm chips in 2021. Wake me up when Intel's 7nm chips are ready. (Intel 10nm == TSMC 6nm, Intel 7nm == TSMC 4nm).
No, TSMC 7 nm is better (smaller) than Intel 10 nm.
 
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What should a pro (e.g. musical producer) do if a new computer is needed right now?
Go for an Intel Mac Pro 7,1 or wait for... what?
That is an interesting question that probably doesn't include the requirements you have for the best answer (for you). Factors in your decision might be your requirements for total life (how long before you typically upgrade your hardware), do you need whole-system warranty support, is this for a hobby or do you depend on it for your livelihood, would your support costs (money, time, effort, aggravation) be reduced if you duplicated a proven solution that you already have...

My hackmini has cost me WAAAYYYY more in time, effort, aggravation than it would have cost me for a real MacMini X1. And that doesn't include the time I spend maintaining the guide to help others. Then again, I didn't build the hack to save money or time.

Bottom line: if you're making an important purchasing decision on which your livelihood depends, you probably have more requirements than are included in your question.
 
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Intel, regarding macOS support, can quote Mark Twain from the New York Journal, "I can understand perfectly how the report of my illness got about, I have even heard on good authority that I was dead." ;)
 
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Snow Leopard killed off PowerPC, if a good reference point, it was a 2-2.5 year cycle in that particular endeavor.

They will still release .dot updates for Monterey for Intel processors, but I think Monterey is the last one to support Intel.

The new intel Mac Pro is in development. Imagine buying another 10,000 dollar Mac Pro and being useless in 1 year. Not happening.. You're looking at 7 years of intel Mac at least.
 

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The new intel Mac Pro is in development. Imagine buying another 10,000 dollar Mac Pro and being useless in 1 year. Not happening.. You're looking at 7 years of intel Mac at least.

You sound very positive. That's always good news. :thumbup:

Monterey is still Intel, and Security Updates always follow even when a new OS is released. Mojave just received 2021-004.

So I think there is every reason to be optimistic. :)
 
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I am sure Apple would not kill off Intel support anytime soon. There are way too many people using brand new Intel macs now and Apple will not want to risk facing multiple lawsuits over this.

You can rest assured that Apple will provide at least 3-5 years worth of support from the day it sells its last Intel Mac. Fearmongers can choose to disagree.

That said, the days of Hackintosh are coming to an end, finally. I could have bought a real mac if I wanted to, but Hackintoshing was so much more fun! I guess another 7-8 years and Hackintoshes will be a relic of the past!

Long live the Hackintosh!
 
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I am sure Apple would not kill off Intel support anytime soon. There are way too many people using brand new Intel macs now and Apple will not want to risk facing multiple lawsuits over this.

You can rest assured that Apple will provide at least 3-5 years worth of support from the day it sells its last Intel Mac. Fearmongers can choose to disagree.

That said, the days of Hackintosh are coming to an end, finally. I could have bought a real mac if I wanted to, but Hackintoshing was so much more fun! I guess another 7-8 years and Hackintoshes will be a relic of the past!

Long live the Hackintosh!
I hope I'm not wrong, however, I would give it more than 3-5 years. For someone who is going to buy the new Mac Pro Intel that will be coming out, I doubt that Apple will support them only for up to 5 years. As you said, lawsuits are a bitch especially for such expensive machines. I hope we will be seeing at least another 7 years of customac-ing after the last model of Intel Mac Pro is issued. Either way, looking forward to it.
 

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I hope I'm not wrong, however, I would give it more than 3-5 years. For someone who is going to buy the new Mac Pro Intel that will be coming out, I doubt that Apple will support them only for up to 5 years. As you said, lawsuits are a bitch especially for such expensive machines. I hope we will be seeing at least another 7 years of customac-ing after the last model of Intel Mac Pro is issued. Either way, looking forward to it.

MacBook3,1, MacBook4,1, and MacBook4,2 shipped with Mac OS 10.5 Leopard and lost support after Mac OS 10.7 Lion. Less than 3 years of OS support. No bitching lawsuits.
 
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