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Why 3 ? Do they all serve different functions ?
Yes. One for my son, one for my wife and one for me. Especially now when most of us are working from home.
 
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I think this last thing you wrote is the real problem and the real obstacle. If Apple has really decided to suppress the Hachintosh community (and I am not very convinced of it, but it is only a very personal thought of an optimist), there will be no way to make new Hackintosh even having all the potential and tools to make them.
To be clear. My belief is that Apple doesn't really care if you create a hackintosh for your personal use. If you create and sell then you will get the attention of their legal department.

Also, to be clear, in my opinion, Apple did not *actively* try to suppress the hackinotsh community by switching to Apple Silicon. It is a by product of their decision to fully integrate the entire hardware/software stack.
 
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Wouldn't surprise me if a community pops up keeping the latest x86 hardware to future iOS's. Like a reversed Rosetta Stone port emulator built into EFI. It's all just Processors, memory and storage isn't it, code to bypass the architecture difference.

Wouldn't surprise me to see a Chinese knockoff ARM/Mobo copy for less than a real one. China have a lot of fake/real iPhones after all.. There's always some crazy Russians writing code that gets distributed by the community.

Don't underestimate the skills and determination in the hacking community. :headbang:
Like Huawei? Yikes! I'd be concerned about backdoors and other security issues from Chinese made processors. And ditto "crazy Russian" code.
 
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Of course it’ll never happen. :headbang:
 

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Here's some info as to why Apple decided to eventually say goodbye to Intel and start using variants of their own A-Series systems on a chip (SoCs).

We all know Apple hates leaks. There are leaks all over the internet that are incredibly accurate these days. We know pretty much every last detail about the newest upcoming iPhone every Fall. Some speculate that employees inside Apple leak this info to the people that post the leaks on Twitter, Youtube etc. There's another kind of "leak" of information that Apple just couldn't tolerate anymore and it's coming from Intel. Mainly, the CPUs that they make. Spectre and Meltdown were just the first of many. This is just not acceptable to Apple as they take privacy and security very seriously. I'm certain that any Apple employee that gets caught leaking sensitive info is immediately let go / terminated. The same goes for the product vendors they use so this makes complete sense to start using their own SoCs that they have complete control over.

When using their own SoCs they believe that they can provide a much more locked down product. The following examples are not even half of the total number. You can see them all at Zdnet.com

I've lost count of how many there are now so here's a visual representation of eight of them.

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Continuously adding more patches via firmware updates causes hits to CPU performance. They are mostly just bandaids for more serious problems in the chip design. Why Intel is not producing a better product is debatable. People that work at Intel could tell you but rarely ever make any public statements as to the cause of this security nightmare.
 
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"Um, Tim Cook said the transition is complete by the end of next year in his part of the keynote. They will NOT create a release of macOS 11 whatever that will install on x86 based computers after that time. Tim didn't sugar coat it or talk in abstracts. He talked in absolute terms."

Of course that makes perfect sense because no one, including Apple, expects a customer who bought a $5,000 Intel iMac or $20,000 Intel Mac Pro today to be able to use it with more than one version of macOS. They expect people who bought a new iMac or Mac Pro today to throw it in the garbage after 1 year.

Fairly sure that *none* of us have access to the inner workings of Apple and what they expect. We debate topics here on the forums. But let's just lay out some items that will come to pass, as stated by Apple, in some finite amount of time.

* Apple will still sell Intel based machines for another 2 years.
* Apple will start selling Apple Silicon based machines by the end of this year.
* Apple will continue to support Intel based machines for a finite amount of time into the future
* Apple will *stop* supporting Intel based machines at some point in the future with some future release of macOS.

At this very specific time of writing that is what we were told by Apple. We have their past transitions to use as reasonable timelines and evidence as to what is very likely going to happen for new equipment.

Your current machine, barring a hardware failure, will continue to run your current software stack *forever*. What is going to change at some point in the future is that you will most likely *not* be able to get an upgrade for your favorite piece of software as that software developer will either charge a price you don't want to pay or have minimum system requirements that does not include your hackintosh. I don't know when that will happen for some random hackintosher. We will each hit our wall at some point.

We are talking years though before that really starts to happen for most of us. Some will hit it sooner than others. A lot can happen in those intervening years. Maybe someone does come up with a board that has an ARM on it that is powerful enough to run macOS. Maybe the community figures out how to run macOS on an ARM design. I think one of the major obstacles will be getting past Apple's security measures like T2 chips. I don't see Apple completely locking down macOS like they do the iPhone/iPads but I see it as a reasonable obstacle to get around. Let's look at the rest of the major system components to see what problems might occur.

First the obvious ones that don't matter: Case, Power Supply, Optical Drive.

CPU: Apple Silicon has its roots in ARM, but have they changed it enough?
RAM: Apple would most likely use industry standard RAM.
GPU: Apple will definitely use an in-house GPU design, lets call this Apple Silicon Integrated GPU. They will need something faster in all likely hood. I don't see any reason (based on history) for them to turn away from AMD. They will contract with AMD for a custom high end GPU chipset that will not be sold on to consumers. AMD will certainly sell something close to consumers but not that exact one. Will it matter like in the current cases for AMD GPUs? Maybe? Maybe not.
Wireless, BlueTooth: Probably will stick with something from Broadcom since they have not moved off of that in the past. BUT they are starting to make their own U1 wireless chips and it would surprise me if they stayed out of the 802.xx and BlueTooth forever. My context was something "built into" or "internal" to a hackintosh system. Somebody will come up with a USB 802.xx/BlueTooth device that runs perfectly fine on Apple Silicon based systems.
SSD/Hard Drive: Apple will continue to make their own SSDs using their own controllers. Any other SSD/Hard drive should still continue to work on Apple Silicon based systems. We will still have to hack in the TRIM support. Spinners still work out of the box.

I intend to use my hackintosh until I can't. Due to my reliance specific kinds of software that forces me into the latest macOS systems my time will come sooner than most hackintoshers. So let's make the most of these years that we have left.
 
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For Solidworks, aren't you best served by a dedicated Windows build anyways?
What I am used to serves me very well indeed - the MacPro 5,1 I have is a much better Windows machine than the similar spec'd dell it replaced and it means I don't need a dedicated Mac in that office. Sometimes the tail wags the dog but whatever way the bits are arranged, the wagging is probably over.
 
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I reckon lots of us will simply buy the latest intel chips to work (unless comet lake is the last for iMac) before becoming obsolete. Even then, someone will port the last intel OS to the latest x86 chipset.

Pretty sure it'll be a 15 core 30xHyperthreading i9 11900k with 32gb 4000mhz DDR4 beast for me, that way I can keep using Logic Pro until I die, or until logic pro makes me coffee or something..then I'd upgrade./

The ARM thing will predictably run alongside x86 for years to come, only time will tell..
 
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Here's some info as to why Apple decided to eventually say goodbye to Intel and start using variants of their own A-Series systems on a chip (SoCs).

We all know Apple hates leaks. There are leaks all over the internet that are incredibly accurate these days. We know pretty much every last detail about the newest upcoming iPhone every Fall. Some speculate that employees inside Apple leak this info to the people that post the leaks on Twitter, Youtube etc. There's another kind of "leak" of information that Apple just couldn't tolerate anymore and it's coming from Intel. Mainly, the CPUs that they make. Spectre and Meltdown were just the first of many. This is just not acceptable to Apple as they take privacy and security very seriously. I'm certain that any Apple employee that gets caught leaking sensitive info is immediately let go / terminated. The same goes for the product vendors they use so this makes complete sense to start using their own SoCs that they have complete control over.

When using their own SoCs they believe that they can provide a much more locked down product. The following examples are not even half of the total number. You can see them all at Zdnet.com

I've lost count of how many there are now so here's a visual representation of eight of them.

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Continuously adding more patches via firmware updates causes hits to CPU performance. They are mostly just bandaids for more serious problems in the chip design. Why Intel is not producing a better product is debatable. People that work at Intel could tell you but rarely ever make any public statements as to the cause of this security nightmare.
One thing I keep thinking about but nobody really has the explanation: If Intel CPUs are that problematic, why hasn’t Apple considered AMD Ryzen? Unless Apple Silicon chips are even more powerful than Ryzen...
 
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Dear community,
1 query, I have Core i5 - 4460 with Intel HD4600 Integrated graphics... Will my existing hackintosh on Catalina (10.15.5) be able to run Big Sur as well?
Thanks.
 
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