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The average user has no idea what Intel means. The average user doesn't make a thousand posts about Nvidia support (not even pros do, as they simply want the best options available at a reasonable price, whether they're branded Nvidia or AMD). Again, the average user will keep buying Apple products as long as they're satisfied with them. And there's literally no downside in the ARM switch. I don't know how many of you watched the keynote, but Rosetta 2 ran a 16-million polygons model in Maya (for Intel), with colours, shaders, effects and all at native speed; it also ran a fairly recent Intel game at full speed and high framerate.
Basically, the aforementioned average user will end up with considerably faster Macs and little to no x86 incompatibility: I fail to see how Cook supposedly messed this up. Intel has been lagging behind all of its competitors: ARM chips are getting faster and faster, AMD offers better performances (on the high-end range, the difference is abysmal). Apple had to choose whether to move forward or keep delivering "meh" Macintoshes.

I still remember, even though I was definitely younger, when Apple switched to Intel. Most people said that PowerPC was a superior platform, that Intel was slower and that people would stop buying Macs and Apple would end up licensing Mac OS X. All of them were wrong, just like they will be now. To be honest, I was annoyed at how little progress Intel has been making in the past years, how their roadmap is far from exciting and how Macs do not really deliver a premium performance, on their base models at least (models that cost as much as premium PCs). At least, during the Snow Leopard era, Macs were priced reasonably and offered features, materials, designs and apps that no PC could give you. Finally, with ARM CPUs Apple will be able to surpass Intel like it did with their PowerPC G3 and G4 before the Intel Core line: if the cheapest iPad is faster than most notebooks, imagine what Apple can do with a desktop custom-chip.

Concerning the hackintosh world, yes, it is ending, albeit not immediately. Bear in mind that Apple supported PowerPC CPUs for four years. But most PowerPC machines were already either old, or anyway running on old processors. The PowerPC G5 debuted in 2003: basically, they had 6 years of OS updates (3 of which after switch, sorry for the pun), and were still supported until 2011. Nowadays, with the resources Apple has at its disposal and the large number of Intel machines, we can rest assured that Intel Macs will be supported for at least 5, 6 years. As the new Mac Pro was introduced just last year, Apple can't relinquish those pro users: I wouldn't be surprised if Intel versions will keep coming as long as there's a significant number of Mac Pros running.

Think of the hackintosh adventure as both a Mac OS trial version and an opportunity to learn: after building, understanding and overcoming years of "hardships", anything below actual coding is trivial to most of us. I've always been keen on computers, but I'm grateful for everything I learnt and experienced for free, thanks to Tonymac and their staff, but also thanks to many other, concurrent websites like InsanelyMac. Personally speaking, I'll run my desktop as long as I can: when the time comes, I'll replace it with an ARM Macbook, as Mac hardware will finally be worth Apple's prices. Besides, it's not like every new Mac OS version revolutionises the OS: even 10 years from now, building a cheap hackintosh, e.g. stuck on Mac OS 11.5, as your secondary/living room computer won't be a bad idea at all (just like many people keep running not-up-to-date Windows 10 iterations, Windows 8 and even 7).


it is called evolution of CPU it happened before it will happen again anyone recalls the 486chip shift to Pentium and from P-1234 to intel Core1-9 and now we have ARM it is inevitable intel will surly release a ARM-Core CPU for Laptops and Desktops based on apples Arm-CHIP not Exact but close to it so its not the end of the hackintosh world but its a new beginning and challenge for us all user & Devs alike, so there will be hackingtosh ARM Community in the coming future it is inevitable and cant be denied. tonymacx86 and all the hackintosh sites build team & users, did it once before they can still do it again in due time that for sure.
 
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Bootcamp is quite important to a lot of people these days and I wonder how much Microsoft see that too. What about the chances of Windows tracking apple hardware to preserve this option?
 
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Call me cynical, but seldom does the price of anything fall without a sacrifice in either performance, quality or upgradeability. So I think that yes, there will be a MacBook Silicone under a grand, but it will not be a MacBook Pro or have the performance we are used to seeing with current MacBooks Pro or Air. It seems to me that the move to ARM will bring us more models that are likely to be iPads with keyboards than anything else. At least for now. Can someone explain how running DaVinci Resolve would ever work on one of those? Not likely. So maybe for those of us who work with our computers and have loved the Apple OS and its elegant GUI and performance, a change of OS may mean Win or Linux. I do agree however that nothing is going to turn off immediately. I think Apple wants the laptop market, is concerned about the popularity of Chromebooks in Universities and schools where they had a stronger hold in years gone by and need to pair their phone/laptop business. IMHO
 
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So ARM uses less power, that means less heat, which results into less noise.
In the Keynote they also mentioned gaming and graphics. Does that mean that apple will also build high performance graphic chips ? Could that the first time really mean that we could get a high power silent desktop which cost less than $2000? It would be awesome if Apple would finally lower their RAM and SSD prices that move might draw a horde of new customers.
 

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It would be awesome if Apple would finally lower their RAM and SSD prices that move might draw a horde of new customers
Across the board price cuts would get more people to try a Mac. Apple's profit margins will go way up when they start using Apple Silicon. More than 30% from estimates I've seen. Whether they pass the savings onto their customers remains to be seen. It would make sense if they did. There are many more Windows machines in the world than Macs. Lots of room for growth.
 
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Great article on the reasons behind the move not to "ARM" but to "Apple Silicon" here (and yes, there is a distinction): https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...migration-to-apple-silicon-is-bigger-than-arm

"In some respects, Apple's use of ARM cores in its SoCs is similar to its use of Unix in the OS itself. Both are effectively specifications that standardize the operations of low level technology layers. In the same way that Macs are more than just Unix systems, Apple's SoCs are more than just ARM processors.
As with Qualcomm's modems, the customizations, optimizations, and additional layers of proprietary work that Apple adds to its A-series SoCs results in a package that's significantly more valuable than its base components."
 
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RIP Hakintosh running macOS. period.

Jailbreaking macOS every time os updated is unrealistic, time consuming, tedious. I will switch back to Windows 10 running linux. All applications I've been using run better in Windows. The only reason was the only macOS but no reason to stay anymore for me.

However, I will not upgrade any x86 cpus or laptops until Intel make 5nm CPUs. It will take 3~5 years, so I will stay 3~5 years more in macOS, buy x86 5nm cpus or labtops, and switch to Windows.
 

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Only the registration date is different from tonymacx86.com.


Did you miss this? :)

 
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RIP Hakintosh running macOS. period.

Jailbreaking macOS every time os updated is unrealistic, time consuming, tedious. I will switch back to Windows 10 running linux. All applications I've been using run better in Windows. The only reason was the only macOS but no reason to stay anymore for me.

However, I will not upgrade any x86 cpus or laptops until Intel make 5nm CPUs. It will take 3~5 years, so I will stay 3~5 years more in macOS, buy x86 5nm cpus or labtops, and switch to Windows.

Finally someone smart around here.

For the people who thinks that we will have a hackintosh arm cpu, you are delusional, that will never happen.

How old is the iOS, 13 years? Was someone able to install iOS on android phone? NO!!

After 2-3 years when they will move completely to Apple’s new silicon cpu and get rid of Intel, bye bye hackintosh, in that time the Mac OS will be locked ca also be named iOS.

If in the future Intel will build ARM CPUS, Apple will still use their own CPUS, there is no point of buying from someone else when you already built your own better ARM CPUS.

There is only one savior for us and that’s the Mac Pro, for power user only.

When Apple talked about gaming they was referring to Apple Arcade, that’s why they rushed the developers with the catalyst project.
 
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