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Apple M1 vs Hackintosh

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You have think about longevity if your going to build a hackintosh now. That is if you will want to run future Apple macOS versions. I think they will kill intel within 2 years.

I built last summer and will wait until the apocalypse then get maybe a MacMini or iMac. Of course there is always the lottery in which case I will get a McLaren Spider.
 
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The Gaming 7 has a THB_C header that means you can simply purchase a GC Alpine or Titan Ridge add in card. From there you can decide if you need to custom flash the TB card to get TB bus or if you can live with SSDT only implementations. If you can get your hands on the older GC alpine ridge you can get TB bus with only an SSDT. Then you can simply drop a 9900k CPU (8cores/16 threads) into your system. Yes the 10900k has (10 cores/20 threads) but you have to ask yourself if those two extra threads are worth the possible issues or stick with a system that you know is stable and just upgrade it a little.

There is a golden build for the z490 that would also make it easy if you get a GC Vision D.
Thanks, I don't feel the upgrade to 9900K is worth touching my system at all since my 8700K is delidded and stably running 5.0 Ghz. I've also heard mixed reports about getting TB to run properly with my board. The whole idea was indeed sparked by the Z490 Vision D golden build and making the switch to OpenCore, too. However, as much as I like tinkering, I probably should do the smart thing and keep working with my current build until I run into real problems with it. ;)
 
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However from a Hard drive stand point TB3 devices take 30 sec to plug in and in most cases works as well as if it was plugged directly in SATA.
TB3 is potentially better than sata. Sata tops out at 550 MB/sec, my nvme in a tb3 enclosure is getting 2600 MB/sec read/write.
 
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Thanks, I don't feel the upgrade to 9900K is worth touching my system at all since my 8700K is delidded and stably running 5.0 Ghz. I've also heard mixed reports about getting TB to run properly with my board. The whole idea was indeed sparked by the Z490 Vision D golden build and making the switch to OpenCore, too. However, as much as I like tinkering, I probably should do the smart thing and keep working with my current build until I run into real problems with it. ;)
Changing to the 9900k is not a huge deal I went from 8700k to 9900k and all it took was the time to swap the chip in no changes to my config. My board and your board are fairly close to the same and my thunderbolt works great. I have a GC Titan ridge AIC with NVM33 (z390 designare) modified firmware flashed to it. I have 3<->5 pin jumper for Force power and it works great. I never connected the USB2.0 header so that does not work but that is no big loss.
 
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TB3 is potentially better than sata. Sata tops out at 550 MB/sec, my nvme in a tb3 enclosure is getting 2600 MB/sec read/write.
Of course NVME is faster but I was only talking about SATA not NVME. From an SATA stand point there really is no difference.
 
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Anyone wanting to consider whether to go for a hackintosh that is flexible and upgradeable (compared to M1), I’d recommend a Comet Lake system plus Z490 board equivalent. CML is probably the last proper working (and supported) Intel platform currently out there. VDA decoding and HVEC on iGPU would at least still work as well as dGPU.
 
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I've had the base model M1 Mini for a couple of days and it appears to truly be a game changer. I would not recommend spending more than a few hundred dollars on parts right now to build a hack. Not if you're doing it just to run the latest Mac OS.

I would definitely recommend against buying any Intel Mac right now. Don't do it unless you have a very specific and immediate business need.

Assuming your current Hackintosh is getting the job done, then wait and see what comes next. But it looks to me, gone are the days when you could safely say that you could build a more powerful Mac for x amount of dollars than Apple. It all depends on what you need it for and just how powerful the rest of the Apple lineup is going to be.

My initial impressions if the M1 were a motor vehicle: It handles very well, can easily go over 100 MPH and it gets 150+ MPG. It's my first choice for a Sunday drive or running errands. I'm not sure yet how comfortable it would be to take the family coast to coast. Can it haul cargo? Can it go off-road? :)
It sure can't run a lot of my basic vst and audio u it plugins that a core 2 duo can run lol
 
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I've had the base model M1 Mini for a couple of days and it appears to truly be a game changer. I would not recommend spending more than a few hundred dollars on parts right now to build a hack. Not if you're doing it just to run the latest Mac OS.

I would definitely recommend against buying any Intel Mac right now. Don't do it unless you have a very specific and immediate business need.

Assuming your current Hackintosh is getting the job done, then wait and see what comes next. But it looks to me, gone are the days when you could safely say that you could build a more powerful Mac for x amount of dollars than Apple. It all depends on what you need it for and just how powerful the rest of the Apple lineup is going to be.

My initial impressions if the M1 were a motor vehicle: It handles very well, can easily go over 100 MPH and it gets 150+ MPG. It's my first choice for a Sunday drive or running errands. I'm not sure yet how comfortable it would be to take the family coast to coast. Can it haul cargo? Can it go off-road? :)
****in m1 cant run autocad or windows 98/xp/vista/8/10/11
 
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