ALC892 - 7.1 and HDMI

[sturze]

Hey Audio cracks!

Still hoping this is possible...: 7.1 analog Audio AND HDMI Audio

I am using HDMI for standard output (working so far...) but i also like to have 7.1 analog output for my Razer Tiamat Headset!

if i choose Audio-layout 1 i just get HDMI... am i wrong?!

any hints how i get this working?!

 

[toleda]

if i choose Audio-layout 1 i just get HDMI... am i wrong?

Yes. HDMI, see Post #1/HDMI Audio AppleHDA
5.1 analog, see Post #1/Surround Sound Realtek ALC AppleHDA
7.1 analog, requires AppleHDA.kext customization, see audio_ALC_guides/Customization.pdf

 

[sturze]

Yes. HDMI, see Post #1/HDMI Audio AppleHDA
5.1 analog, see Post #1/Surround Sound Realtek ALC AppleHDA
7.1 analog, requires AppleHDA.kext customization, see audio_ALC_guides/Customization.pdf

Thanks for your Anser! So, you say its possible??

#1/HDMI Audio AppleHDA
i know this Post, but its 100miles long and i lost the overview.... its pretty confusing! i dont know where to start and which parts are needed and wich are alternatives to others...

Can you be more precise about the steps?

please correct me if i am wrong:
what you are trying to tell is, i can use DSDT/SSDT to enable HDMI on my NVIDIA 660 and later edit the existing AppleHDA.kext to enable 7.1 audio?

but there is this part, i am not shure if i interpret this right:

Requirements
S/L/E/AppleHDA.kext

1. Native S/L/E/AppleHDA.kext/with or without onboard audio
   1. See Restore native AppleHDA [Guide].pdf
   2. Remove any audio kext enabler, disables HDMI audio
      1. Delete S/L/E/HDAEnabler?.kext
2. Realtek ALC AppleHDA.kext (885, 887, 888, 889, 892, 898, 1150)
3. Patched AppleHDA.kext
4. Supported Audio-IDs (Audio_ID = layout-id), select one
   1. Audio_ID: 1 - 3/5/6 port Realtek ALC onboard audio with/without
      1. HD4600+/HD6000+/AMD/Nvidia HDMI audio

this means i can use the patched kext to enable 6 Analog ports AND HDMI in one step?!

i also think to know that DSDT/SSDT is "patch-proof" because it describes Hardware, while editing the kexts maybe gets overritten on updates, is this also true? (need to ask, as long as i have the chance to ask the master ;D)

is there also a way to it all via DSDT/SSDT?

 

[toleda]

So, you say its possible

Yes.

this means i can use the patched kext to enable 6 Analog ports AND HDMI in one step?!

No.
892/5.1/7.1 is independent of 670 HDMI audio
cloverALC and cloverHDMI require native AppleHDA.kext, edits are persistent through updates.
All questions are answered in the linked threads.

 

[sturze]

first of all thanks for answering! you maybe think i am hard work, but i just need the "click", so dont give up on me

ok... i read through all this (HDMI Audio AppleHDA)once again... later i also tried to get the clue with your descriptions on your repositories on Github and all the linked PDF's

still not shure

1. Dependencies to the unedited/native AppleHDA.kext

you say

cloverALC and cloverHDMI require native AppleHDA.kext, edits are persistent through updates.

yes, because, as we allready resolved, DSDT/SSDT --> persistent

but you also said

7.1 analog, requires AppleHDA.kext customization, see audio_ALC_guides/Customization.pdf

that means 7.1 analog (kext editing) eliminates cloverALC and cloverHDMI (as far as i could read all DSDT/SSDT edits) because, as you said, they need the native, unedited AppleHDA.kext?! or am i still wrong?!!?

if its true i still cant see the working combination with Nvidia HDMI and analog 7.1 outputs on the ALC892 at the same time...

2. if i am wrong... another Way to do?!?!
if i understood the native HDA thing wrong, the way i would see it working would be

NVIDIA HDMI: https://github.com/toleda/audio_hdmi_guides/blob/master/[Guide]-OSX-Nvidia-hdmi_audio.pdf.zip

after this the
ALC892: https://github.com/toleda/audio_CloverALC
Audio ID 1 for 7.1 analog ports and add the jacks as you said in https://github.com/toleda/audio_ALC_guides/blob/master/Customization.pdf

Is this the right way?!


#####EDIT
OMG!!!! i allmost got it!!!!


reset my appleHDA.kext but the HDMI was still here (i think because of the DSDT/SSDT i created a few days ago.. is that possible?)

and then started with the audio_cloverALC-110_v1.0r10.command, then ID-1 and ... boooom! everything was right here!
created a new Output-device (5.1) yet, but then i remembered i physically have no grey output...
So on Windows i had to reroute the output (via registry) for the sub-right and sub-left (grey) plug to the (i chose the) line-in (because i dont need it...).

Can i do that here too? turning line-in (blue) into SubR/SubL (grey) to finally get 7.1?

 

[toleda]

turning line-in (blue) into SubR/SubL (grey) to finally get 7.1?

The customization guide enables grey without repurposing blue, read the guide.

 

[sturze]

The customization guide enables grey without repurposing blue, read the guide.

i did!at 5. it tells how to substitute the black to get the grey and with 6. it tells how to substitue SPDIFout to get the grey plug...

but i physically have NO grey plug as you can see on the picture i have added. And i have to plug it in somewhere...

thats why i plugged it into blue, thats why i was asking, if its possible to turn blue into grey. you understand my dilemma?

one input (for mic) is enough for me anyway...