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[10.15.5]Umang's KabyLake Build: i7 7700K, 32GB RAM, MSI OC Vega56, 1TB NVMe silicon power p34a80 + 1TB HDD

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Motherboard
Gigabyte Z270X Ultra Gaming
CPU
i7-7700K
Graphics
MSI vega 56 air boost
Mobile Phone
  1. iOS
Umang's KabyLake Build:
i7 7700K, 32GB RAM, MSI OC Vega56, 1TB NVMe silicon power p34a80 + 1TB HDD

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Components


Gigabyte Z270X ULTRA GAMING Motherboard
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N66ZESI/?tag=tonymacx86com-20
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128968

Intel i7-7700K CPU
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXSI216/?tag=tonymacx86com-20
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117726

Circle Gaming Cabinet Phoenix
https://www.amazon.in/dp/B01LYCIVNC/

Antec VP650PM 650W Modular Power Supply
https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00OW16W1O/

Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz (PC4 19200) C14 Memory Kit - Black
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019HVQJ2U/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P736UEU/?tag=tonymacx86com-20
https://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147372

Silicon Power 1TB NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen3x4 2280 TLC R/W up to 3,400/3,000MB/s SSD (SU001TBP34A80M28AB)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L6GF81L/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Windforce OC GV-N1080WF3OC-8GD Graphics Cards
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IR6LMLO/?tag=tonymacx86com-20
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125880


BenQ BL2711U 27" 4K IPS Monitor, 100% Rec. 709 and sRGB
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014450
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RORBPEW/?tag=tonymacx86com-20


WTXUP Broadcom BCM94360 1750Mbps 802.11ac Wireless Desktop PCi-E WiFi Adapter PCi Express Card + Bluetooth 4.0 + 4* 6dBi Antenna
link: HERE
Note: In the above card, Bluetooth stopped working within 8 months so I bought new Fenvi FV-T919 from Buyer's guide.


Comments

Why did I want to build this system?

I am an iOS application developer, and I was using a Sony Vaio laptop that I have hackintoshed before 3 years. Now I feel like my laptop is struggling with some large application development. So I was looking for deals on iMacs and compared price/Performance ratio between iMac and Hackintosh of the same cost. Then, I come to know that in India only i5 model 27 inch iMac is available, so I have decided to go with building PC by my self as I can get i7 + GTX 1080 for the cost of top iMac available in India. I have chosen all major parts by reading guides and people’s builds which are working fine.

Why I have picked a component's manufacturer/model #.
  • Circle Phoenix Cabinet: I decided to go with this one because it has 5 LED fans and have nice Gaming Beast like the look.
  • Gigabyte Z270X ULTRA GAMING Motherboard: It was mentioned in Buyer’s Guide and I have got good reviews about Gigabyte’s service and warranty compared to Asus.
  • BenQ BL2711U 27”: I have decided to get a 4k monitor and I found that generally all monitors available in the market are providing 99% or less SRGB and then I selected this one based on reviews and Features it provides like eco mode and eye protection features.

BIOS Settings

First time reset to defaults and then set values as below.
BIOS
  • FastBoot -> Disable
  • Windows 8/10 Features -> Windows 8/10 WHQL
  • CSM Support -> Disable
Peripherals
  • Initial Display output -> PCI E 1
  • Intel PTT -> Disable
  • intel BIOS Guard -> Disable
  • Network Stack -> Disable
USB
  • XHCI HandOff -> Enabled
Chipset
  • VT-D -> Enabled
  • Internal Graphics -> Enabled
  • IOAPIC 24-119 -> Disabled (I enabled it now)
Installation

Sierra 10.12.6 -

I have created USB media by running command :
Code:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sierra.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sierra.app --nointeraction &&say Done

Then I have installed Clover with these options which are shown in the below screenshot. Also, note that this motherboard does not support NVRAM that's why we need to select EmuVariableUefi-64.

Once Clover gets installed it should mount EFI partition automatically, but, if it does not, then you can try using Clover Configurator or any EFI mounter to mount EFI partition.
Screen Shot 2017-11-10 at 10.10.52 PM.png


Here is the list of kexts that I have used at the time of installation.
  • AppleALC.kext - For sound (ALC 1220)
  • FakeSMC.kext
  • IntelGraphicsFixup.kext - For intel HD 630
  • IntelMausiEthernet.kext - For Ethernet
  • Lilu.kext - Multipurpose (for audio as well as graphics)
  • NvidiaGraphicsFixup.kext - For Nvidia Graphics
  • USBInjectAll.kext - For USB ports
  • XHCI-200-series-injector.kext - For USB ports
I have putted these kexts in EFI/CLOVER/kexts/Other folder.

Config.plist:
ACPI->DSDT
Screen Shot 2017-11-13 at 9.41.10 PM.png

ACPI->Fixes->FixShutDown->True​

Boot->Arguments
Screen Shot 2017-11-13 at 9.49.48 PM.png


Kernel and Kext Patches->
Screen Shot 2017-11-13 at 9.53.01 PM.png

Rt Variables->
Screen Shot 2017-11-13 at 9.56.18 PM.png


For Audio if you are using AppleALC.kext then for ALC1220 :

Devices->Audio->InjectID->11
Devices->Audio->ResetHDA->True


For Graphics:
NVIDIA GTX 1080 requires web drivers so after Sierra installation completes you need to install Nvidia web driver according to macOS version. Now to get quick sync working we also need to enable Intel HD 630 and to do so all we need to do is modify config.plist as given below :
Devices->IntelGFX->0x59128086
Graphics-> Inject Intel-> true
Graphics -> ig-plateform-id -> 0x59120003

For USB and USB Power:
I have decided to go with proper and recommended solution, and, hence, I have followed this guide:
https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/10-11-0-10-11-3-skylake-starter-guide.179221/
If anyone has the Same motherboard as mine then they can directly use my files which I have posted Here.
Note: Don't forget to exclude ports in config.plist as shown in screenshot under boot section.
Also, I have done proper USB power management (To charge iPad). So, if you have same Motherboard then you need use SSDT-USB.aml and SSDT-EC.aml in Clover patched folder.

For Wireless Connectivity:

After installing Fenvi FV-T919 in the system, all functionality works out of the box so no need to perform steps given below for this card but if you have the wtxup card then further elaborated process might help you.

Wi-Fi on this wireless card works properly out of the box but Bluetooth doesn’t. I’ve tried the latest BrcmPatchRAM2.kext and BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext but that doesn’t help. Then I’ve looked into @RehabMan's repo and found that support for this specific card has been removed. So I’ve tried older kexts and got it working.
If you have the same card and having trouble getting it working, then try the above-mentioned kexts from Here. Note: Install these two kexts to S/L/E.

10.13 High Sierra

Upgrade to High Sierra is smooth for me except sleep. I have decided to go with APFS file system as I think that in the future apple will make it mandatory so we should accept this in my opinion.

Here is what I have done to get High Sierra:
  • Upgrade clover boot loader to latest version.
  • Added Apfs.efi in clover/drivers64UEFI
  • Update AppleALC.lext, IntelGraphicsFixup.kext, Lilu.kext, fakesmc.kext etc

In Config.plist:
  • Boot -> -disablegfxfirmware -> true
  • Download High Sierra update from App Store and start installation.
Once installation finishes, then NVIDIA control panel will prompt that Driver update is needed; I have updated it and then restarted the system. And High Sierra is working properly.

10.13 Supplemental Update
  • updated Apfs.efi in clover/drivers64UEFI
    [*]Uninstalled Nvidia web drivers as many users are facing problem while updating to supplemental update without uninstalling web drivers
    [*]Started update and then everything goes smooth, after finishes, I have installed new Nvidia web drivers and got everything working

10.13.1 High Sierra:

  • updated Apfs.efi in clover/drivers64UEFI
  • Started installation from App Store
  • After installation completes update Nvidia web drivers
  • Done
I may have missed some points so please let me know if I have missed anything. :)

I would also like to say thank you to @pastrychef, @RehabMan and "tonymacx86" for your awesome support.

Update 1(18Nov2017) :

I have noticed that quick sync has stopped working after I have updated NvidiaGraphicsFixup.kext to 1.2.1 so I have disabled that kext from config.plist by adding this flag: "-ngfxoff" . You can directly delete this kext as I have not faced any problem after removing it.

Update 2(03Dec2017) :
Updated System to Apple Security Update 2017-001 without any problem and after reboot Nvidia web drivers requires update so I have updated it and everything is fine.
I have also overclocked CPU to 4.8Ghz and RAM to 2600Mhz without facing any problem.

Update 3(09Dec2017) :
Updated System to 10.13.2 without any problem . Here are the steps i have followed :
As mentioned in this thread : https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/macos-10-13-2-update.239847/
Before Update:
1)Replaced apfs.efi in efi partition with new one from above link
2)Updated lilu.kext in clover kext folder
3)I have downloaded 10.13.2 update package from link provided in above link instead of downloading it from app store so that i can reuse it.
Run Update and on reboot, we need to select install mac os from your-drive-name
After Update:
1)Nvidia Driver manager notifies that we need to update web drivers so go ahead and update it and then reboot
Donehttps://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/macos-10-13-2-update.239847/
https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/macos-10-13-2-update.239847/
Update 4(30Dec2018) :
I already updated my system to 10.13.6 by following the same scenario as always that includes: Keeping back-up, Update clover and kexts. This time I had started to use: ApfsDriverLoader-64.efi to get rid of the manual process of updating apfs.efi before the update.
Note: I have updated USBInjectAll, CodecCommander and other kexts which are residing inside LE and SLE. I have attached latest clover folder at bottom.

Update 5(24May2020):
I am not getting much time to update the post but I kept my system up to date and after Catalina update, all new updates were a pain. Even in some cases, clover was the main reason to break things (5108-5109-5110) so since then I was thinking about moving to Opencore from clover.
I started preparing EFI for OC and once I am ready I removed all clover related stuff from MacOS and added OC's EFI on my USB drive, I got KP which is common in Gigabyte MOBO which is [EB|#LOG:EXITBS:START].
The solution to this KP was mention in official docs so I applied it and bingo I was on the lock screen but as soon as I landed on Desktop all things just become stuck, No response from mouse, KB even incomplete animation was also there stuck so I tried 1-2 more things like Enabling/Disabling SIP but no luck.
Then I put back the clover EFI and still I am facing the same thing, I tried multiple things like safe mode,single-user, etc but it was dead-end so I took hard decision to format my system and go all fresh. I lost all my data and the same OC EFI that I prepared was working great, after installation, I just pasted EFI folder in EFI partition and that is all it took.

All Above process includes preparing SSDTs (PLUG, EC&USBX), then prepare kext for USBMap (Similar to the SSDT we prepared for clover), Read all the things carefully so we don't miss anything in config.plist file generation, obviously updating the latest kexts and all was also required.

USB Mapping for this MOBO is as per the attached pic and SSDT can be found here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/10-11-0-10-11-3-skylake-starter-guide.179221/post-1621471
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As of now, Everything seems working just like before, didn't notice any performance difference.

Update 6 (12Jun2020):
Today I decided to update OC version to 0.5.9 and tackle CFG lock to avoid these 2 patches as on this MOBO CFG Lock settings are unavailable:
AppleXcpmCfgLock AppleCpuPmCfgLock
Steps:
I have gone all the way fresh as I am not that much confident in updating OC as smooth as updating Clover.
  1. Download OC 0.5.9 and paste kexts(Updated few) and SSDT files from existing EFI to the new one
  2. Prepared whole new config.plist while copying SMBIOS related data from existing config.plist and changed/updated all values by going through the guide (It is a bit long process :crazy:)
  3. Replaced Resources with the latest binary data for OC GUI boot menu
  4. Try first by using USB to boot and once confirmed it works then replace main EFI(Boot drive) with the new EFI
For CFG Lock:
As CFG lock option is not present in bios (current version f9d) I have followed this tutorial:
And I used Modified Grup Shell to perform this command:

setup_var 0x502 0x00

Note:
This value can be different for all MOBOs and it can be changed with bios updates. Also resetting bios will also require to perform this process again.

Update 6 (22Sept2020):
Today I decided to update OC version to 0.6.1. So I performed preparing a new EFI from scratch and after 2-3 trials by booting from USB, I finally got it working properly.

Update 6 (24Sept2020):
Updated macOS Catalina version to 10.15.7 without doing anything at all. Everything was really smooth. It took around 20 minutes and OC seems to do a great job for the macOS updates as previously with Clover, I need to sit at a desk the whole time during the update process as on reboot clover does not auto-select the correct partition to boot.


Benchmarks:
This NVMe m.2 drive is crazy fast:

Screenshot 2020-06-15 at 2.14.37 PM.png

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Now, that MultiBeast for High Sierra has be published, your High Sierra installation becomes much easier.
 
Hi... my first post. I was hoping to have a success as my first post but reality has taken hold.

@umangloria : Hello and thank you for a great set of directions. I’ve tried to follow them with no success at actually getting past the Clover loading the initial OS for me to actually choose a disk for installation. Note that our MBs and CPU are the same. I am using an EVGA 1080 and also have 2x16megs of RAM, that being the differences.

I also noticed that your BIOS settings are quite different from the other step-by-step directions. Obviously you know much more of the guts of OSs than I do, hence me asking for help.

Using your directions as much as possible but...
- I used UniBeast to make my install disk instead of going into terminal
- though I have the newest versions of Clover and it’s Cofigurator, I typed in the flag for disabling Fxfirmware in the custom flags box. In my Configurator, I had no check box for this
- I also added the -v flag since I had been having trouble from the start

Note that I used your BIOS setting recommendations.

After picking the USB stick as my start-up device in Clover with -v, I end with a message that MACH is trying to restart. It shows the same line three times and hangs. I have read in other threads that this was due to some error that was not controllable and that the error would not show if the user used a USB 2 port that was attached to the MB. I had my doubts about this but I tried anyway, tried all ports including USB 3x ports. In each case I end up stuck at the same place.

I should add that before I got to your directions, I have come to the same start up problem by eliminating each problem I hit but I have not been able to get pass this last one.

I don’t think it is a hardware problem, though I cannot rule that out. [Edit]: Just loaded Window 10 and played some solitaire. All specs seemed to be working normally though I did not setup drivers for the Evga but video was going through the card. The BIOS is as you have in your directions.

Thought this is not my screen shot but is essentially the same: https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/...stem-restart-mach-reboot.232886/#post-1589955

If needed, please let me know if you need more information. Latest config file is attached.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
 

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Hi... my first post. I was hoping to have a success as my first post but reality has taken hold.

@umangloria : Hello and thank you for a great set of directions. I’ve tried to follow them with no success at actually getting past the Clover loading the initial OS for me to actually choose a disk for installation. Note that our MBs and CPU are the same. I am using an EVGA 1080 and also have 2x16megs of RAM, that being the differences.

I also noticed that your BIOS settings are quite different from the other step-by-step directions. Obviously you know much more of the guts of OSs than I do, hence me asking for help.

Using your directions as much as possible but...
- I used UniBeast to make my install disk instead of going into terminal
- though I have the newest versions of Clover and it’s Cofigurator, I typed in the flag for disabling Fxfirmware in the custom flags box. In my Configurator, I had no check box for this
- I also added the -v flag since I had been having trouble from the start

Note that I used your BIOS setting recommendations.

After picking the USB stick as my start-up device in Clover with -v, I end with a message that MACH is trying to restart. It shows the same line three times and hangs. I have read in other threads that this was due to some error that was not controllable and that the error would not show if the user used a USB 2 port that was attached to the MB. I had my doubts about this but I tried anyway, tried all ports including USB 3x ports. In each case I end up stuck at the same place.

I should add that before I got to your directions, I have come to the same start up problem by eliminating each problem I hit but I have not been able to get pass this last one.

I don’t think it is a hardware problem, though I cannot rule that out. [Edit]: Just loaded Window 10 and played some solitaire. All specs seemed to be working normally though I did not setup drivers for the Evga but video was going through the card. The BIOS is as you have in your directions.

Thought this is not my screen shot but is essentially the same: https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/...stem-restart-mach-reboot.232886/#post-1589955

If needed, please let me know if you need more information. Latest config file is attached.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
Which macOS are you trying to install? Also, share your EFI folder from USB installer so I can look into it. Also mention BIOS settings you are using at the moment.
 
Which macOS are you trying to install? Also, share your EFI folder from USB installer so I can look into it. Also mention BIOS settings you are using at the moment.

First, thanks for the reply and for the help. I really do appreciate it.
(Note the addition of a screenshot as an attachment and my additions below)

My EFI folder is attached as a zip. It was created on a Mac Pro 5,1.

[To others who may be reading this post... don't use this EFI folder. It doesn't work. Hopefully with the help I am getting, I will post a success thread with all relevant files]

I am trying to load OS X 10.13.1, High Sierra. No betas. Also used the latest version of UniBeast. As you know, I haven't been able to get to MultiBeast... yet.

Again, thanks for taking the time to help out a stranger.

For BIOS settings, with the EFI folder that is attached, I used your recommendations from post #1 in this thread... I'll copy and paste from there for convenience:

[To others who maybe reading this thread, the following is just a copy and paste from post #1]
-----------------
BIOS Settings

First time reset to defaults and then set values as below.
BIOS
  • FastBoot -> Disable
  • Windows 8/10 Features -> Windows 8/10 WHQL
  • CSM Support -> Disable
Peripherals
  • Initial Display output -> PCI E 1
  • Intel PTT -> Disable
  • intel BIOS Guard -> Disable
  • Network Stack -> Disable
USB
  • XHCI HandOff -> Enabled
Chipset
  • VT-D -> Enabled
  • Internal Graphics -> Enabled
  • IOAPIC 24-119 -> Disabled


  • [Edit]:
    I also tried changing the BIOS to recommended setting as posted in this thread: Gigabyte Z270X ULTRA GAMING - i7 6700K - GTX 1060

    I got the exact same end point.

    The attached .jpg is with umang's BIOS settings though I get the exact same hang with recommended settings.
 

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First, thanks for the reply and for the help. I really do appreciate it.
(Note the addition of a screenshot as an attachment and my additions below)

My EFI folder is attached as a zip. It was created on a Mac Pro 5,1.

[To others who may be reading this post... don't use this EFI folder. It doesn't work. Hopefully with the help I am getting, I will post a success thread with all relevant files]

I am trying to load OS X 10.13.1, High Sierra. No betas. Also used the latest version of UniBeast. As you know, I haven't been able to get to MultiBeast... yet.

Again, thanks for taking the time to help out a stranger.

For BIOS settings, with the EFI folder that is attached, I used your recommendations from post #1 in this thread... I'll copy and paste from there for convenience:

[To others who maybe reading this thread, the following is just a copy and paste from post #1]
-----------------
BIOS Settings

First time reset to defaults and then set values as below.
BIOS
  • FastBoot -> Disable
  • Windows 8/10 Features -> Windows 8/10 WHQL
  • CSM Support -> Disable
Peripherals
  • Initial Display output -> PCI E 1
  • Intel PTT -> Disable
  • intel BIOS Guard -> Disable
  • Network Stack -> Disable
USB
  • XHCI HandOff -> Enabled
Chipset
  • VT-D -> Enabled
  • Internal Graphics -> Enabled
  • IOAPIC 24-119 -> Disabled


  • [Edit]:
    I also tried changing the BIOS to recommended setting as posted in this thread: Gigabyte Z270X ULTRA GAMING - i7 6700K - GTX 1060

    I got the exact same end point.

    The attached .jpg is with umang's BIOS settings though I get the exact same hang with recommended settings.

Few Things i have noticed :
Set XMPDetection to Yes in config.plist and also set XMP profile1 from BIOS.

you are using AppleALC so set Audio inject id 11 and set resetHDA to true in config.plist under Devices section.
Also make sure that you are using correct USB limit patch which is here : https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/new-usb-raise-port-limit-patch-for-high-sierra.226072/

If you are using SSD then patch to enable trim should not be disable.

Use SMBIOS for imac 18,3 as that has nearly same configuration.

Make sure that kexts you have putted in Other folder are Latest.

Also set true to trust in SMBIOS section .
 
Few Things i have noticed :
Set XMPDetection to Yes in config.plist and also set XMP profile1 from BIOS.

you are using AppleALC so set Audio inject id 11 and set resetHDA to true in config.plist under Devices section.
Also make sure that you are using correct USB limit patch which is here : https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/new-usb-raise-port-limit-patch-for-high-sierra.226072/

If you are using SSD then patch to enable trim should not be disable.

Use SMBIOS for imac 18,3 as that has nearly same configuration.

Make sure that kexts you have putted in Other folder are Latest.

Also set true to trust in SMBIOS section .

I am happy to report that I was able to load High Sierra!!

I double checked everything as you advised and sure enough, I had a couple of things out of date the biggest being Clover! I'm not sure how I was able to download an older version but some how I did. I changed all my other config.plist things that you stated above and attempted to boot. At first try, I got the same error message. I booted back into BIOS to double check everything and all seemed fine. Was about to write back with a failure message but I noticed something that I did not check in the BIOS and that was "Easy Mode" located at the bottom. I clicked on it and everything looked all as I would expected but I noticed that "Intel Rapid Storage Tech" was enabled. Now, I am not sure if I accidentally did this, or the board thought I wanted this because I hooked up 3 storage devices, or that is the default setting, which would be odd.

So the answer seems to be disabling IRST. After doing so, everything went according to plan. I was able to load High Sierra rather quickly and all seemed to be AOK. Booting initially from the USB stick showed that I had network and audio. I was easily able to load the Nvidia 'web' driver without problems (note though you must have a internet connection for it to work properly).

What made me pause was in trying to boot via my HD after configuring with MultiBeast. I would hold down F12 to go into BIOS but the drive just didn't show. I was a bit worried but I looked in "Easy Mode" again and it showed that the default was my new High Sierra disk, another oddity. I rebooted and just let it go past the BIOS screen and I was in High Sierra.

I have everything working, and this include USB 2, 3 and 3.1. I can't test the USB 3.1 - C port since I don't have a device to plug into it but I think it is working. The only thing that is not working is sound, which I can work on later and since it worked via the USB boot, I'm hoping that it will be easy.

@umangloria, I cannot thank you enough for taking the time and having the patience to help me out. If there is anything I can do for you, please don't hesitate to ask.

For everyone else, I will do a full report on my new machine. If there any speed test you want me to run or check to see if a particular app is working... etc, I will try to accommodate.

[Edit] - I now have audio. Unless I'm missing something, I have everything working. I will try to write an 'easy reader' version of how I went about all of this in the next few days.
 

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I am glad to hear that your system is up and now in running condition. I think you have missed that part in which I have said that reset bios to default settings and then change according to guide. Also I have edited main post as for audio if you are using applealc.kext then inject id 11 and tick resetHDA in config.plist
 
I am glad to hear that your system is up and now in running condition. I think you have missed that part in which I have said that reset bios to default settings and then change according to guide. Also I have edited main post as for audio if you are using applealc.kext then inject id 11 and tick resetHDA in config.plist

Yeah, that is something I might have missed if I had been doing this just once but I did reset by 'load optimal' and then make changes each time I did anything to the BIOS. I guess that doesn't necessarily mean that it reset to factory defaults. If I hadn't succeeded, one of the things I was going to do was to short the jumper to reset the entire MB. It was a thought of last resort because I just didn't like the idea of 'shorting' something on a circuit board. I like the old MBs on Mac's that had a small black button to reset it. Of course it may be doing the same thing as shorting with a jumper or, heck, a screw driver but it sure felt safer to do back in the day.

Again, thanks for the help. I'm working on a very wordy 'how to' for others to follow. Your handle is in it so you'll get a notice when it is up. If you find the time to read it, please do so I don't lead anyone astray. It's going to take some time so it won't be up for a day or two. - K
 
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