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Gigabyte Z490 Vision D (Thunderbolt 3) + i5-10400 + AMD RX 580

Z590 with 10900K can use the iGPU headless, but not for display.
Thunderbolt 4 is indeed troublesome because macOS does not have proper drivers for Maple Ridge, and the best bet for compatibility is to stick to Titan Ridge (Thunderbolt 3). Which essentially rules out 500 and 600 series board with integrated Thunderbolt.
For a second build beside a Z490 Vision D, I'd try hard to get a second Z490 Vision D, or failing that a Z490 Vision G, to simplify EFI management. A Vision G can still take a dGPU, the 10 GbE NIC in the second PCIe x8 slot (bifurcated from the CPU) and a Titan Ridge AIC in the x4 slot from the PCH. But maybe the Z490 Aorus Master is close enough?
 
etorix said:
Z590 with 10900K can use the iGPU headless, but not for display.
Thunderbolt 4 is indeed troublesome because macOS does not have proper drivers for Maple Ridge, and the best bet for compatibility is to stick to Titan Ridge (Thunderbolt 3). Which essentially rules out 500 and 600 series board with integrated Thunderbolt.
For a second build beside a Z490 Vision D, I'd try hard to get a second Z490 Vision D, or failing that a Z490 Vision G, to simplify EFI management. A Vision G can still take a dGPU, the 10 GbE NIC in the second PCIe x8 slot (bifurcated from the CPU) and a Titan Ridge AIC in the x4 slot from the PCH. But maybe the Z490 Aorus Master is close enough?
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this is exactly what I have decided to do.. 10 years of running hackintosh I see the extreme benefit of having the most compatible components. Looking for another Vision D. I appreciate the input. I really do! It's tough wanting to get the latest and greatest, but realizing the actual long term use case is not going to be smooth sailing unless you stick with compatible components. Another quick question, Gigabyte has a Titan Ridge v1 and v2 card available. What is the difference, and what implementation does the Vision D have?
 
HenryM said:
@bricknewer Please replace your SSDT-DMAR.aml with the one I attached here and then try booting Windows via OC again.
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This works for me every time. I always have to remember to replace it. Can you tell me if this will remain relevant as OC gets updated? And why it's needed.
 
Blackintosh
Z490 Vision D |  i7 10700 |  RX 570 8GB
DMAR is a table for Direct Memory Access, which is used by VT-d and now used by macOS for networking.
We replace the original table to delete reserved areas which may conflict with what macOS expects.
Updating OC changes nothing about that, but updating BIOS might bring an updated DMAR table so one needs to check and adjust SSDT-DMAR if needed after a BIOS update. (First rule of BIOS: If it's not broken, don't fix it.)
 
tyns said:
Another quick question, Gigabyte has a Titan Ridge v1 and v2 card available. What is the difference, and what implementation does the Vision D have?
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No idea what was updated in the Titan Ridge cards, but they are known to behave the same anyway.
TR v2 predates the Vision D board, so the Vision D implementation must match v2.
 
etorix said:
No idea what was updated in the Titan Ridge cards, but they are known to behave the same anyway.
TR v2 predates the Vision D board, so the Vision D implementation must match v2.
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Does the Vision D have the same quirk as the asus proart board where if you put a card in the third PCI slot, Thunderbolt is disabled? I am looking at boards, and the Z490 Aorus Master still seems to be around. I'm thinking maybe an Aorus Master and a Thunderbolt card if I can't track down Vision D. Of course.. I was planning to upgrade my network to 10g soon too...so....using up the bottom slot is not ideal. Unless I go with an external Thunderbolt adapter. Ugh...so many choices...the Vision D or the Aorus Xtreme seem to be the best choices for all around features.
 
tyns said:
Does the Vision D have the same quirk as the asus proart board where if you put a card in the third PCI slot, Thunderbolt is disabled?
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The answer to that is in the specifications and block diagram, as it's the manufacturer's own trickery in dealing with too few PCIe lanes. For the Z490 Vision D it seems there's sharing between the x4 slot and a M.2 (x4 -> x2x2) but nothing with the Thunderbolt chip.

tyns said:
I am looking at boards, and the Z490 Aorus Master still seems to be around. I'm thinking maybe an Aorus Master and a Thunderbolt card if I can't track down Vision D. Of course.. I was planning to upgrade my network to 10g soon too...so....using up the bottom slot is not ideal.
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Why? Thunderbolt in the x4 PCIe slot from PCH, as recommended, and NIC in a PCIe slot from the CPU. The GPU will operate on x8 instead of x16, but it's unlikely you will notice the difference because most workloads fit within the x8 bandwidth.
 
etorix said:
The answer to that is in the specifications and block diagram, as it's the manufacturer's own trickery in dealing with too few PCIe lanes. For the Z490 Vision D it seems there's sharing between the x4 slot and a M.2 (x4 -> x2x2) but nothing with the Thunderbolt chip.


Why? Thunderbolt in the x4 PCIe slot from PCH, as recommended, and NIC in a PCIe slot from the CPU. The GPU will operate on x8 instead of x16, but it's unlikely you will notice the difference because most workloads fit within the x8 bandwidth.
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yes, there is trade off on that last PCie slot for each board. Yes, I am aware putting the 10g card in the second slot instead on the Asus board. I am not sure if a 6900 XT needs more than 8x was the only concern with that. also, future proofing just in case I get a dual 6900 XT system.. Just considerations and thinking out loud. Is the Aorus z490 Xtreme a solid board? I read success build forums on this site. It looks nice because you basically have everything all on the board especially for 10g and thunderbolt. Decisions.
 
tyns said:
I am not sure if a 6900 XT needs more than 8x was the only concern with that.
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It is a matter of the workload that is put at the GPU, not the GPU itself.

tyns said:
also, future proofing just in case I get a dual 6900 XT system..
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Then one last desperate measure would be to turn a M.2 slot into a PCIe x4 slot on extension cable with a suitable adapter.
Next, a X299/C422/C621 build to have enough PCIe lanes for everything… But community support will be limited.

tyns said:
Is the Aorus z490 Xtreme a solid board? I read success build forums on this site.
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If you've found successful build reports, it works.
 
etorix said:
DMAR is a table for Direct Memory Access, which is used by VT-d and now used by macOS for networking.
We replace the original table to delete reserved areas which may conflict with what macOS expects.
Updating OC changes nothing about that, but updating BIOS might bring an updated DMAR table so one needs to check and adjust SSDT-DMAR if needed after a BIOS update. (First rule of BIOS: If it's not broken, don't fix it.)
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Thanks for the illumination ;-)
 
Blackintosh
Z490 Vision D |  i7 10700 |  RX 570 8GB
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